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If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu

edited April 2014 in Poker Chat
 My son has self excluded himself from sky poker for 2 years but he will be back :) 

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  • edited April 2014
    You've posted from the wrong account donk
  • edited April 2014
    Spelling and sentence structure is too sound for it to be IDCU Paul.
  • edited April 2014
    Thread title styles must run in the family.

    You total plonker.
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    Spelling and sentence structure is too sound for it to be IDCU Paul.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Fair point

    ...although thread title looks legit :)
  • edited April 2014
    It reads like there's a letter from idonkcallu in this month's Poker Player magazine.

    If he takes their advice, perhaps Sky will overlook the exclusion and let him back.
  • edited April 2014
    I've asked Steve if it was him that posted this.

    He said no, he asked his Mum to because he read slipwaters thread the other day asking where he was.

    I questioned this, and said "well she has a similar writing style to you"

    He told me he and his Mum do have similar writing styles, and sent me this picture to prove it.




    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=f9m6w1&s=8#.Uz3nWTpOXIU

    Couldn't make it up.

    How can you not love this guy!!!  :)
  • edited April 2014
    idcu (mum) for totp!
  • edited April 2014
    Whats the interest on £100 over 2 years?
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    Whats the interest on £100 over 2 years?
    Posted by Donttelmum
    About £271,390 if Wonga were involved.
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu : About £271,390 if Wonga were involved.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr

    Wasnt he in the skill and go final?

  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    It reads like there's a letter from idonkcallu in this month's Poker Player magazine. If he takes their advice, perhaps Sky will overlook the exclusion and let him back.
    Posted by shakinaces
    ....or perhaps NOT.

    Self-Exclusion cannot be rescinded under any circumstances.

    Sorry & all that, but that's how it is.
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    It reads like there's a letter from idonkcallu in this month's Poker Player magazine. If he takes their advice, perhaps Sky will overlook the exclusion and let him back.
    Posted by shakinaces
    Yeah, my wife self-excluded herself from bedroom antics a few months ago, and I've had to overlook that.
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu : Yeah, my wife self-excluded herself from bedroom antics a few months ago, and I've had to overlook that.
    Posted by Slipwater
    That made me chuckle.
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu : ....or perhaps NOT. Self-Exclusion cannot be rescinded under any circumstances. Sorry & all that, but that's how it is.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Suppose you are self excluded but have money on the site, I assume you can still withdraw it?

    Also, what if you left your page open a 'friend' came in your room and decided it would be a funny prank to self exclude you for X amount of time?

    This is just one example of something but surely there should be a way to un-self exclude yourself in situations where you didn't mean to self exclude yourself in the first place? And perhaps sky can look at specific cases - eg. someone who is depositing and losing £500 every month might have a gambling problem so if they were to self exclude then sky would be right to not allow this person to come back under any circumstance. But if you were a winning player and were somehow self excluded, then it's obvious this person doesn't have a gambling problem and so if they explained to CC or w/e they could unimpose the self exclusion?
  • edited April 2014
    Hehe, not many middle-aged women abreviate you to u.

    Funnily enough, as demonstrated by his alias, IDCU does.
  • edited April 2014
    I played a2 day tournament recently
     3 people were removed from the casino. One was someone who had self excluded himself online.
    He didn't realise he wouldn't be able to play live.
    All in all seems to back up the view that there should be ways to override an online self exclusion.
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu : Suppose you are self excluded but have money on the site, I assume you can still withdraw it? Also, what if you left your page open a 'friend' came in your room and decided it would be a funny prank to self exclude you for X amount of time? This is just one example of something but surely there should be a way to un-self exclude yourself in situations where you didn't mean to self exclude yourself in the first place? And perhaps sky can look at specific cases - eg. someone who is depositing and losing £500 every month might have a gambling problem so if they were to self exclude then sky would be right to not allow this person to come back under any circumstance. But if you were a winning player and were somehow self excluded, then it's obvious this person doesn't have a gambling problem and so if they explained to CC or w/e they could unimpose the self exclusion?
    Posted by F_Ivanovic
    Morning Tennis Bloke.

    I'll try & explain how these things work. Please remember, I don't make these rules, or even, necessarily, agree or disagree with them, I'm simply trying to explain things which players often don't understand, or know the reasoning behind certain things.

    If you have money on the site, & self-exclude, can you still withdraw it?

    Yes.

    Self-exclusion does not imply any wrong-doing. I would imagine their balance is paid to them tout de suite. I would think the SE (Self-Excluded) player would no longer be able to log in, so his balance would presumably be auto-paid to him. 

    what if you left your page open a 'friend' came in your room and decided it would be a funny prank to self exclude you for X amount of time?

    The Site Rules of any Online Gaming Site would say exactly the same thing, as that situation is extremely exploitable.  I don't have the exact wording to hand, but it would say something like this.....

    A player is responsible for the security of his own Sky Poker account.
     
    The reason for that, I'd assume, is that if the player changed his mind after, perhaps, rashly Self-Excluding him or her self, they could claim exactly the scenario you outlined as a means to try to overturn the Self Exclude. A coach & horses of considerable girth could squeeze through that gate of opportunity.

    Now move that on a stage, & a chap has a really bad session, & donks off his entire balance in a fit of tilt. He could try & claim the same thing, by alleging it was not him, but someone else using his account. 

    Players should get a "second chance" after they have Self-Excluded. 

    Again, that would be very exploitable. I believe that both the GC & GamCare are very strict about this.  There is a point at which individuals have to be accountable for their actions. So, if anyone is considering a Self-Exlcusion, they should bear this in mind BEFORE they SE. After is too late.
     
    I hope that explains some of the logic behind the SE Rules.    
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: If any of u wanted to know whats happened to idonkcallu:
    I played a2 day tournament recently  3 people were removed from the casino. One was someone who had self excluded himself online. He didn't realise he wouldn't be able to play live. All in all seems to back up the view that there should be ways to override an online self exclusion.
    Posted by GELDY

    Morning (again!) Gelders.

    A self-excluded player CAN play "live", but there are some specific examples, exceptions, where it would NOT be permitted.

    Hypothetical Example 1

    A player who was SE on Sky Poker qualified for a Sky Poker Live Event where the winnings were advertised to be paid via his Online Account.  He would NOT be allowed to play the Live Event, even if he paid in "direct" at the Venue.

    Hypothetical Example 2

    A player who was self-excluded on Sky Poker could play ANY Live Event anywhere, if the winnings were advertised as paid out by the Venue, in cash, & he had NOT qualified via Sky Poker.
     
    Hypothetical Example 3

    A player or players were found to have colluded to qualify, but this information only came to light during the Live Tournament. They would be disqualified there & then, & removed from the venue, as they had qualified by allegedly improper/illegal means.  (This actually happened in the UKPC Main Event. They had qualified on another site, not Sky Poker, incidentally).
     
    I don't, of course, know the circumstances of the specific cases you mentioned, or whether their expulsion was right & proper. I would vey much doubt that the organisers took the decision lightly, though.

    These are very awkward areas, but I doubt action is ever taken without good cause.

    Hope that helps a bit.
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