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Your views please

edited April 2014 in Cash Strategy
History - Villian (H) is an active player who probably thinks I'm solid.

My thoughts. I raised pre in position for value. I check flop as I think I'm well ahead here and its such a dry rainbow flop. I bet small on turn as I think I'm well ahead and I want to get some value from say a 10 or a turned FD or a PP and give him a chance to raise bluff(which he will do). He then quickly leads into me on the river and I suddenly cant see how i'm ahead now. I dont think this is ever a bluff and at time I though it was more likely a rivered 2 pair hand. I fold. He shows a rivered set.

I then get a bit of abuse that I played it wrong but I think I was never getting 3 streets of value and probably getting a fold on the flop. If the river was a brick then I still think I'm getting calls from some PP's, 10's and weaker Aces.

Thoughts?



PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
blackcobraBig blind £0.10£0.10£22.96
 Your hole cards
  • Qd
  • Ac
   
silvaladyFold    
tgmtelFold    
HRaise £0.30£0.40£20.16
CraigSG1 DRaise £1.00£1.40£27.98
blackcobraFold    
HCall £0.70£2.10£19.46
Flop
  
  • 10c
  • Ah
  • 5d
   
HCheck    
CraigSG1Check    
Turn
  
  • 4d
   
HCheck    
CraigSG1Bet £0.60£2.70£27.38
HCall £0.60£3.30£18.86
River
  
  • 9s
   
HBet £2.20£5.50£16.66
CraigSG1Fold    
HShow
  • 9h
  • 9c
   
HWin £3.05 £19.71
HReturn £2.20£0.25£21.91

Comments

  • edited April 2014
    Here's my view for you Craig.

    3bet pre is fine although flatting is an option too as you have position and a fairly well disguised hand. I find that many peoples calling ranges of 3bets whether in or out of position tend to fall into 2 groups of hands. Any PP up to and including JJ in some cases and suited connectors or semi connectors up to hands like KJ/KQs. Most people will 4bet QQ+ and AK although you do get the odd player who thinks he's laying a trap.
    Check on flop is fine although I think a cbet is fine too.
    After the checked flop though I think we've gotta bet bigger on the turn, say £1.50 or so. We want to charge any potential draw and if he does have a worse ace get more money in the pot.
    On the river I think I sigh call and see. If you're gonna fold tp 2nd best kicker to a 2/3 river lead in a not particularly bloated pot then that could be very exploitable to a good player down here, a bit too nitty imo. The only reasonable 2p hand looks like T9s or possibly a slow played ATs otf. Worth paying £2.20 to see if he calls 3bets oop pre with hands like A9s+ or pairs (as it happens you got it for free - what a bargain!)
  • edited April 2014
    :)

    3bet pre is good.

    100% have to bet flop, your missing out on so much value here in the long run.

    Turn, you have to bet more. I like £1.40.


  • edited April 2014

    Pre and flop are fine. I personally prefer betting flop but checking isn't a mistake imo.

    Turn needs to be like 1.20 - 1.30

    As played river is a snap call. You have under repped your hand so much. Don't be results orientated because this time he had a set.

  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: Your views please:
    Pre and flop are fine. I personally prefer betting flop but checking isn't a mistake imo. Turn needs to be like 1.20 - 1.30 As played river is a snap call. You have under repped your hand so much. Don't be results orientated because this time he had a set.
    Posted by 77Chris91
    This.

    Surely we check back the flop to disguise our hand (to a degree) and thus call them when they take a stab on a later street?

    Probs just bet the flop mostly, though occasionally might check it, or the turn, behind. Then value own myself on the river innit.
  • edited April 2014
    Thanks. I dont mind checking flop as i c-bet a lot but should have bet turn bigger. Still not sure about river, as at the time just didnt feel like I was ahead.
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: Your views please:
    Thanks. I dont mind checking flop as i c-bet a lot but should have bet turn bigger. Still not sure about river, as at the time just didnt feel like I was ahead.
    Posted by CraigSG1
    Is this not a good reason to cbet? If people ain't gonna believe you when you have the goods, make them pay....
  • edited April 2014
    In Response to Re: Your views please:
    In Response to Re: Your views please : Is this not a good reason to cbet? If people ain't gonna believe you when you have the goods, make them pay....
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    I know what your saying but I mix it up a lot. It all depends on what ive done a lot of over last few hands. Just trying to ballance the hands I check flop with from nothing to big peices. 
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