DYM Low Blinds?

belsibub

Should I be re-raising for value or should I just call being worried about slow played q9/q10 or 9's that would not fold(I am discounting 10's as played)?

Any other constructive criticism on how the hand should be played welcome.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
shaneybaby	Small blind		10.00	10.00	1970.00
kayjay	Big blind		20.00	30.00	2120.00
	Your hole cards	5 5
SPIDER_PIG	Fold
x	Call		20.00	50.00	1930.00
belsibub	Call		20.00	70.00	1880.00
shaneybaby	Call		10.00	80.00	1960.00
kayjay	Check
Flop
		10 Q 5
shaneybaby	Check
kayjay	Check
x	Check
belsibub	Bet		40.00	120.00	1840.00
shaneybaby	Fold
kayjay	Fold
x	Call		40.00	160.00	1890.00
Turn
		Q
x	Check
belsibub	Bet		120.00	280.00	1720.00
x	Call		120.00	400.00	1770.00
River
		9
x	Bet		220.00

Jac35

Preflop is fine in my opinion. Probably raising 50% of the time but happy just calling as well at this stage. Others may advocate raising always here.

I'd bet a little more on the flop and certainly the turn.

River I'm raise/folding to around 600 as played. I think we're missing value otherwise. I doubt a player who is limping pre is capable of 4bet bluffing the river. Simple fold if he shoves.

Incidentally, why are you discounting 10's but not 9's?

belsibub

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds?:

Preflop is fine in my opinion. Probably raising 50% of the time but happy just calling as well at this stage. Others may advocate raising always here. I'd bet a little more on the flop and certainly the turn. River I'm raise/folding to around 600 as played. I think we're missing value otherwise. I doubt a player who is limping pre is capable of 4bet bluffing the river. Simple fold if he shoves. Incidentally, why are you discounting 10's but not 9's?
Posted by Jac35

Limited notes on player  bets out sets on wet flops other wise check raise(but could change mo i suppose)

cenachav

Pre fine.  Flop fine.  When turn pairs the Q and oppo leads I'm doing cartwheels as it looks like they have just hit trips and we can get all their chips.  Am flatting behind too on the turn and raising to 600ish on the river looking to snap off any jam

Slipwater

Yeah. I'm certainly guilty of the flat river call more often than I should, because I spend too much time thinking my opponent has the nuts, but on balance it's a raise.

Nuggy962

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds?:

Yeah. I'm certainly guilty of the flat river call more often than I should, because I spend too much time thinking my opponent has the nuts, but on balance it's a raise.
Posted by Slipwater

Big plus one!

But..... Depends on the player.  If have reads then maybe can be a flat. Early on I would also be guilty of a flat call and 90% of time gutted to see trips 

DoubleAAA

Firstly what level is this dym?  I'm raise/folding the river ~650-700 unless I have notes that indicate villain is spewy and then I'll raise more.  You'll get snapped off so often by Qx and KJ.

Bet more on flop and turn.

belsibub

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds?:

Firstly what level is this dym?  I'm raise/folding the river ~650-700 unless I have notes that indicate villain is spewy and then I'll raise more.  You'll get snapped off so often by Qx and KJ. Bet more on flop and turn.
Posted by DoubleAAA

Using I.E.?
Show fine in chrome & firefox for me.

Jac35

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds?:

Firstly what level is this dym?  I'm raise/folding the river ~650-700 unless I have notes that indicate villain is spewy and then I'll raise more.  You'll get snapped off so often by Qx and KJ. Bet more on flop and turn.
Posted by DoubleAAA

Is this not identical to my post?

DoubleAAA

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In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds? : Is this not identical to my post?
Posted by Jac35

Yes it's very similar, I guess this is looking like the correct play

DoubleAAA

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In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds? : Using I.E.? Show fine in chrome & firefox for me.
Posted by belsibub

No I meant what buy in is this?

belsibub

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In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds? : No I meant what buy in is this?
Posted by DoubleAAA

Most of my games are in the microbes with the odd low.

But i don't think as a rec i will be playing much for the near future.

Can take the beats(been messing about here for 6 years) just sick of the software.

Was looking forward to try & make 25 points(alot for me) a day for the cup freerolls & try & improve make a small profit to boot.But the 'new improved' software just takes any fun out of the game.

Will probably play the odd game here and there and to hell with trying to improve so won't be posting any more hands.

GL at the tables.

DoubleAAA

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds?:

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds? : Most of my games are in the microbes with the odd low. But i don't think as a rec i will be playing much for the near future. Can take the beats(been messing about here for 6 years) just sick of the software. Was looking forward to try & make 25 points(alot for me) a day for the cup freerolls & try & improve make a small profit to boot.But the 'new improved' software just takes any fun out of the game. Will probably play the odd game here and there and to hell with trying to improve so won't be posting any more hands. GL at the tables.
Posted by belsibub

Yeah the software is frustrating especially when having a few tables loaded up I find it becomes less-responsive, a bit somewhat 'clunky' in mini mode.  But try to over-look that if you're beating/enjoying the game.  At the micros you're doing very well if you can beat the game which has a 20% rake!

The other reason as to why I asked what level it was, was at the lower levels they're far more likely to turn up with some Qx KJ thinking it's the nuts so raising the river will always be the most profitable move, infact against some opponents if you know they have the Q you can just jam and they'll snap call you with there Qx.

If you keep posting, then with the feedback from others regarding your hands you'll be sure to improve.  Gl at the tables fella.

devonfish5

I fold 55 pre-flop, but calling is NEVER good as this just brings in more players. i would fold or raise here never call.

as to the rest of the hand... 1/2 pot than 3/4 bets are too small. if we play these hands or any hands bet bigger..get the max.

it sounds like you have hit a low mate, trust me...we all get them.

I drop down a level or even 2 when it happens to me.

just play ultra agressive, especially when you play ANY hand on the bubble, and your results will improve...100%

gl,

DoubleAAA

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds?:

I fold 55 pre-flop, but calling is NEVER good as this just brings in more players. i would fold or raise here never call. as to the rest of the hand... 1/2 pot than 3/4 bets are too small. if we play these hands or any hands bet bigger..get the max. it sounds like you have hit a low mate, trust me...we all get them. I drop down a level or even 2 when it happens to me. just play ultra agressive, especially when you play ANY hand on the bubble, and your results will improve...100% gl,
Posted by devonfish5

I would have to disagree with this.  First couple of levels it's perfectly fine to limp in with low pocket pairs unless of course we have aggro players behind us and we can mix it by raising them sometimes when we have other players whom we usually play against just to keep them guessing.

Nuggy962

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds?:

In Response to Re: DYM Low Blinds? : I would have to disagree with this.  First couple of levels it's perfectly fine to limp in with low pocket pairs unless of course we have aggro players behind us and we can mix it by raising them sometimes when we have other players whom we usually play against just to keep them guessing.
Posted by DoubleAAA

massive +1

Raising here is a mistake imo, why inflate the pot at early levels with a poor hand to play post flop.  Esp in micro srakes play to hit set then take max value! I am happy to get it all in on river - got to be very unlucky to be behind, and as TK would say, if you are behind, if you do not go broke probably loosing value in long run

Gl

devonfish5

we only hit sets 1/7.5 so by limping in we are throwing chips away to often when we limp in, plus limping is a bad habit in any form of poker.

by raising we are taking the lead and therefor the best way to play them.

playing small pocket pairs is not optimal play during the first 3-4 levels imo and also John Connors too I might add.

how you play is your business, I'm just giving you my experience of how I play them.

I am posting this for belsibub, what he chooses to make of it is up to him.

spinky6108

Limp in here for me does not cost many chips if you flop a set could get paid big time then your sitting pretty for the rest of the game as chip leader with a big stack. If you don't flop fold lost a few chips no damage done.

TeddyBloat

The limp is fine. We want as many players in as we can, no need to raise. hit a monster v 2 players or hope for cheap showdown with no damage done. Its a +ev play.

The idea that limping is bad in all forms of poker is very misguided. Its a useful general rule for new players to never limp, but there are many situations where a limping range is entirely appropriate - even if its exploitable. (Especially if its exploitable actually, as being exploitable is what will win us the most money against the average player)

Matt237

Definitely completing here.