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i give up!
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| burtyboy | Small blind | £0.05 | £0.05 | £8.12 | |
| villian | Big blind | £0.10 | £0.15 | £14.66 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| ian1957 | Call | £0.10 | £0.25 | £8.00 | |
| BlueNote | Fold | ||||
| Kefalonian | Fold | ||||
| DADSARMIE | Fold | ||||
| burtyboy | Call | £0.05 | £0.30 | £8.07 | |
| villian | Raise | £0.30 | £0.60 | £14.36 | |
| ian1957 | Fold | ||||
| burtyboy | Call | £0.30 | £0.90 | £7.77 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| burtyboy | Bet | £0.45 | £1.35 | £7.32 | |
| villian | Call | £0.45 | £1.80 | £13.91 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| burtyboy | Bet | £1.80 | £3.60 | £5.52 | |
| villian | Call | £1.80 | £5.40 | £12.11 | |
| River | |||||
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| burtyboy | Check | ||||
| villian | Check | ||||
| burtyboy | Show |
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| vilian | Show |
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| villian | Win | Straight to the 5 | £5.13 | £17.24 | |
my opinion of the cash tables is, you might as well sit down and all chuck your money on the table and be dealt two face up cards each, best hand wins.
Comments
Hey - don't give up....
I dnt get ur pre flop play tho, uve limped with AQ, n flatted a raise OOP ... you then lead out twice..
He has the betting lead in the hand, once you hit the ace ur pretty happy right? - I wud be giving him the chance to bet, especially the flop, which I probably raise, then bet out the turn. I dont think hes continuing in the hand hoping to improve, I think he must believe he is good, or maybe he has set up the play to bluff the river. After the turn, theres alot of scare cards for you - maybe this is what he's thinking.
Id just keep it simple bud, ur flop and turn play is fine, simplicity is genius. - However, this fellas raised pre, and cant let you go. Your ace was disguised well by limp calling pre. - More standard, 4 x BB pre, he flats, you fire the flop, with the betting lead, see how much he likes his 2's now. He might float 1, fire the turn, tasty pot with the minimum of fuss!
GL, keep going, DOHH
it's not loosing the hand or how, as i know in the long run i'll come out in front if i put money in knowing i'm ahead but i just can't get these good hands home on these tables, on the DYM the op folds on the turn 9 out of 10 on the cash the player calls 9 out of 10 and it seems 5 of those they hit, i push on the flop and everyone folds or i get called by a monster. i guess there in lies the difference, on the cash a bad move just means a reload, sit n go it means your out, it is a very different game thats for sure.
had queens gone all in and lost to aces
both times were in later stages of a double your money tournement
i think sometimes your just unlucky and you have to get on with it!!!
This is not as terrible as it appears. You say that he doesn't have a flush draw, but yes he does. Even that little deuce is a draw to beat pocket aces.
On the flop he has 2 2s, 4 4s and the backdoor flush which adds up to 2 outs mathematically, so 8 outs. This makes him about 30% yet he only has to call 45 into a 135 pot.
The fact that you're exasparated indicates that you're thinking about your hand in isolation and not your opponent's. His play wasn't exemplary, but you will see a whole lot worse than that! The fact is mate, you let him in - you gave him a chance to beat you when you could have killed him off.
Very interesting hand and thanks for posting it.
This is of course assuming that my understanding of the stop & go is correct (whereby you call a pre flop raise with the intention of betting out on any flop)
The "stop & go" bet is a strong bet (usually all-in) indicating that the person who makes the bet can't be "taken off" his hand.
(I could be wrong though!)
Also, what if the positions are reversed here and we made the call from the big blind. do we bet out the flop if they check it?
Its all in the head Bob, u need to play ur opponent as well as the cards, look at his tendancies.
If Ive called speculatively in the BB from an UTG raiser, n Ive flopped the nuts say pkt 9s on a 99A flop- how do I get paid?
It all depends on what Ive seen from my oppo before! - How aggro is he? how has he played flops after raising pre in the past?
I might make the "donk" bet into him. I might check, If he C bets reguarly. Its really player specific, and in my opinion, one of the great thrills of playing the game, when the cards r irrelevant (of course theyre relevant but what I mean is i cnt lose) - and its man on man! or woman on woman
If the bloke C bets 90% of the time, he will know that we know that, its guna be hard to check call all the way, coz hes gonna get suspicious. Id "donk" into him......
If the fellas been raising left right n centre, n C betting every flop, maybe the optimum play is to let him fire away!
The question rly is hard to answer, as its so 'circumstance specific' - but all i'd say, is think your play through before u make it! have a plan!
If sum1 donk bets into me 2 handed, I raise 95% of the time, that ones easy!
DOHH
P.S. Normally the stop and go is used in tournaments when you aren't playing that deep and can be very effective, when you're playing cash and most players are about 100bb's deep it's a lot rarer to see players do it.
One more question though, what do you mean by balancing your range? I've seen it mentioned a few times in other posts but I don't understand it.
I've already tried to incorporate a couple of things into my game over the last couple of days & have ended up in profit so long may it continue.
Personally, if I hit a hand I always lead out into the pre-flop raiser (100% convinced this is the best play, can be debated on another thread), can this tick both boxes? :-)
BB
When you finally hit a hand, LEADING into the raiser is the best play by a hundred million miles. Those who check-raise are generally playing it wrong.
People often state that you should check-raise an aggressive player who has raised pre-flop since you can be sure that he will c-bet.
In fact, the c-bet is so endemic that check-raising is an option against 90% (don't quote me there) of players.
If you lead out with a strong flopped hand into an aggressive pre-flop raiser they may well perceive it as a donk bet and raise you which gives you more value.
As in most areas, there are many approaches and choosing which one to use at any given time is the key. Always playing it the same way is, of course, easily exploitable.