Any ideas if/how I can get paid here?

silentbob

This is a bit of a weak spot for me, trying to figure out if & how I can get paid off when I hit a monster like this.

What would be a decent value bet here? Is it ever worth over betting to make it look like a bluff?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Ironmac	Sit out
PLAYER 1	Small blind		£0.10	£0.10	£11.43
PLAYER 2	Big blind		£0.20	£0.30	£7.83
	Your hole cards	8 J
makapaka	Fold
gaz19	Fold
silentbob	Raise		£0.60	£0.90	£23.56
PLAYER 1	Call		£0.50	£1.40	£10.93
PLAYER 2	Call		£0.40	£1.80	£7.43
Flop
		9 2 10
PLAYER 1	Check
PLAYER 2	Bet		£0.60	£2.40	£6.83
silentbob	Call		£0.60	£3.00	£22.96
PLAYER 1	Fold
Turn
		7
PLAYER 2	Check
silentbob	Check
River
		8
PLAYER 2	Check
silentbob	Bet		£1.25	£4.25	£21.71
PLAYER 2	Fold
silentbob	Muck
silentbob	Win		£4.10		£25.81

yb

I would raise the flop, your best chance of getting paid is to build the pot before you make your hand so your opponent is not scared away by a straightening / flushing card. And if he folds I'm happy to take the pot down without a made hand.

DOHHHHHHH

I don't think anything more needs to be said on the matter - yb has got it spot on. U have to raise the flop here, unless you know for sure this guy is abit of a maniac and will bet every street no matter what. Looks like hes taken a stab at it and given up when u showed resistance. Also - a good way to get paid in genral is to play aggressively throughout the session, if when you raise/call you always have a hand, then people r gonna click on.

I do like big overbets on the river, and believe if hes gonna call your bet for a quid, he'll call a fiver here. If a V bet looks like a V bet, it probably is a V bet! lol - I like the size of the river bet if you're bluffing, but when trying to get paid, make it look suspicious. Of course, keep mixing it up.

DOHH

silentbob

Thanks guys, TBH I didn't think about trying to raise this sooner. I guess ultimately I was trying to keep him with me & maybe bring the first guy along for the ride too (who, incidentally, had been very keen to get involved in just about every other hand except this one!).

Are we talking about a cheeky little min raise or a little bigger, or is it really opponent dependent?

DOHHHHHHH

hey Bob I think the size of the raise MUST fit into your own style. What has he seen before from you?

I wud discount the min/small raise, as its not really saying anything. Lets face it at the moment u have jack high, so anything that gets through, isnt a bad result.

As an aggressive player, who raises alot of flops, I wud raise 3/4 of the pot...Because Ive done this so often thruout the session, with the nuts, n with nothing....

It really has to make sense....tell a strory, Im value raising here, so I want a caller, and dont mind being re raised either, as I have ten million outs. Id just stick to pretty standard numbers,,wats the pot??,....2.40? id raise 2 quid.

If he has a marginal hand, how many scare cards are there for him? Hundreds (n they all hit u, he dusnt no that). So the best chance of gettin money here is on the flop.

Uv raised pre flop too - he might see ur raise as just following through, I dnt like to call it a C raise, more of a momentum raise....

I wudnt get too down tho, ur massive, there isnt rly a bad way to play this hand.

Just be more active/aggressive in genral wud be my advice.

GL. DOHH