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Regs / BumHunters
It really annonys me that the regs on the site give no action unless you are a complete fish (Philany2qq at PLO not included in this) but that maybe because I pretty much have an edge over nobody at omaha
After taking a little money of various regs I now find it impossible to get action lower at 100nl or lower.
I wouldnt mind but I came here to move up in correspondence with my BR as I started with a hundred or so to start as my main br is on other sites. I do not have the BR to move up to 1.50 / 3 yet.
To me this bumhunting is something that need to be addressed in online poker as it is sucking money out of the game and to be honest not making it great fun for the recreational player.
I personally love playing regs as there is more physcology involved than just playing ABC.
Guess it is back to the sit n go's!
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and who will fill that space?
it's more likely to be another HUSNG reg than a losing / break even player.
the best way to get action on low traffic sites like sky is to open sit; recs much prefer to join a game than to start one.
HUSNG lobbies are anti-bumhunting. if you want to be able to open-sit a lobby when there are good players online you have to be prepared to have them sit you. on the big site the competition for open lobbies has seen the best regs at each stake collectively sit the bag regs / bumhunters and force them to move down. you see ex $200 players playing $30 games as they can no-longer sit a lobby without being snap sat by one of the top 10%ers at each stake above. to get into these groups you have to play 0000's of games v the best regs to be allowed to sit first unhindered.
sitting first on sky is very profitable, and you cant expect regs to give that edge up without a fight.
if you want to join a game then you have to play whoever is sitting the lobby. there's no easy way of avoiding good players in HUSNG's other than to play lower stakes.
+1
it is self defeating for one player in particular.
is there a way that skypoker can put a limit on the number of tables? it might seem a bad thing at first but the end result is that snghu will grow much faster.
yes, i agree with all that, benc.
however, my point is the newbie faced with a lobby of half a dozen "1 player needed" tables, all with the same player clearly laying in wait, might mean that fewer play. hence, counterproductive.
we really want to encourage volume from a wide range of players.
If some Joe Nobody comes along and sits down at any table for a single game, the reg's advantage is very slim.
I agree very much with the posts by Teddy & benc.
I don't play HU poker, but I do play a lot of DYM's, & I'm certainly not a "regular" in the poker sense of the word, I'm just a recreational getting my poker fix & fun.
But I am always the first to register for the DYM's I want to play, because I know that many players don't like being the first to register, but once there is one name in the Lobby, others soon join.
It is similar in "Live" cash poker. Go to, say, G-Luton, & they refuse to open a new Cash Table until 6 players are sat there, so the games never get started. I was one of the most frequent visitors to G-Luton for many years, 4 or 5 nights a week minimum, but I stopped attending due to that daft policy.
At DTD, they will start any table if I ask, & once I sit down, the table soon fills. (Yes yes, I'm the value....).
Online, the same thing applies imo.
The point Aussie makes is a good one, & I understand it. But this is poker, & the better players will always want to play those they consider to be weaker players. It's not easy to legislate against.
even though this is a low traffic site as stted above there is nothing stopping sky from running more sng tables and tourneys (with no guarantees) because im only a micro stakes recreational player but I get bored waiting for the next tourney at my level so end up playing above my level (really bad brm i know) just to have something to do
i love poker and can quite happily play for 10-12 hours a day
sorry restate that
i love poker and can quite happily lose money for 10-12 hrs a day lmao
my point is a fine one. it is about heads up not other sngs. it is nothing to do with stopping better players playing worse players. it is only about seeing a lobby flooded by one player laying in wait might put off a newbie from joining a HU table.
i am happy with the set up otherwise. my debate is in agreement with all but noting that there is one aspect which is counterproductive. registering in several husngs and waiting is not the best way.
it will be seen for what it is, a poacher setting multiple traps in an area under his control. i am happy that the poacher is there but think that he would do better not to advertise how widely he will scavenge. the HU lobby would not be so supressed as a result.
Just to clarify that.....
As far as I am aware, there is, almost literally, no limit on Sky Poker to the number of HU Tables that will auto-spawn.
As soon as someone registers for one, within 15 seconds, another spawns. If that is not the case, let me know, & I'll have a word, as that is how the Lobby is supposed to work.
Now that also means that a "reg" can sit at 5, 10, 15 or 20 tables at once if they so desire. But eventually they'll run out of money, time & patience, they can hardly sit simultaneously at 50 tables.
Bear in mind that if you, or anyone else, sits first at a HU SNG Table, there is nothing to stop a "regular" from regging to play you.
This whole issue vexes many, & understandably so.
It has been discussed at length upstairs, I gather, & they will continue to monitor it.
As this thread shows, there are two very distinct camps on this matter, & they are polar opposites.
Not an easy one to keep everyone happy, but talking about it can't be a bad thing.
not quite, and maybe i have misunderstood you:
when a HUSNG fills another spawns.
there are two lobbies for each HUSNG type and buyin
so, for example, someone could sit all the HU hyper games between £10-25 and the only way to play a HU hyper at those buy ins would be to either sit him, or wait for someone else to sit him and be first to grab the new lobby that spawns.
it has it's downsides in that some might be put off as aussie says. but it does force reg on reg action [unless they agree to share] and it prevents bad regs from bumhunting. also it does drive action as people are more likely to join a game than start one. having one player sitting a few finate lobbies where they cannot refuse action looks a lot better than the infinate cash lobbies where lots of regs sit at mass lobbies and do refuse action.
Maybe I have misunderstood YOU!
Once ONE player sits at a HU Table, another Table should insta-auto-spawn. It does NOT wait until that table fills.
I just tested it in fact, & that was exactly what happened.
If that is NOT happening, please let me know, & I'll let them know Upstairs, because the default is clearly designed for the next table to spawn once ONE player sits.
If that was not the point you were making, my apologies, please clarify.
Disclaimer; I'm very easily confused. Speak s l o w l y please.
if theres always an empty lobby then there should be no issue then.
If that is not happening, let me know, & I'll pass it on to the people who sort these things. I know & man & all that.