You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this......

Enut

There are always a number of posts claiming that Sky is rigged because of how people run, well I am not claiming it's rigged at all but here is an example of how badly you can run, JUST DUE TO VARIANCE.

I played for only about an hour and a quarter last night and played 4 MTTs and 2 Omaha HL STTs. Here are some of the crucial hands from those tournaments and before you ask there were very few hands that I haven't posted here that 'held up'. I think I had AA once and won with that and also won a £5.50 Omaha DYM so it could have been worse!

I have summarised the hands here for those of you that don't want to look at the hand histories but also posted the full histories for any non believers.

Here goes....

Started 9.00 pm (late regged for £10,000 BH and MINI BH)
9.07 KK v A6    All in Pre                LOSE
9.09 AKs v A5  All in Pre                LOSE  (Exit hand from £10,000 BH)
9.22 KK v 85    he rivers trips     LOSE
9.25 KK v QJ    All in Pre                LOSE  (Exit hand from £1,000 BH)
9.34 KK flops top full house and LOSES to ONE OUTER  (Exit hand from Omaha DYM)
9.50 A9 v A6    All in Pre                LOSE  (Exit hand from Mini BH)
10.10 KK v A5  All in Pre                LOSE  (Exit hand from £3,000 BH)

Needless to say I stopped playing at about 10.15. Variance is due to go my way soon, she was certainly a cow to me last night!

GG AND GL...

KK hand from £10,000 BH, KK v A6 AIP

Hand History #826481715 (21:07 11/10/2014)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Enut	Small blind		40.00	40.00	1885.00
Richiegone	Big blind		80.00	120.00	931.00
	Your hole cards	K K
snoxx11	Fold
ChipFatty	Fold
sil3entf4r	Fold
lawless07	Fold
Enut	Raise		120.00	240.00	1765.00
Richiegone	All-in		931.00	1171.00	0.00
Enut	Call		851.00	2022.00	914.00
Enut	Show	K K
Richiegone	Show	A 6
Flop
		A 9 6
Turn
		A
River
		4
Richiegone	Win	Full House, Aces and 6s	2022.00

Exit Hand AKs v AJ AIP in £10,000 BH.....

Hand History #826483249 (21:09 11/10/2014)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
lawless07	Small blind		40.00	40.00	4365.00
Enut	Big blind		80.00	120.00	834.00
	Your hole cards	A K
Richiegone	Fold
snoxx11	Fold
ChipFatty	Raise		240.00	360.00	2037.50
sil3entf4r	Fold
lawless07	Fold
Enut	All-in		834.00	1194.00	0.00
ChipFatty	Call		674.00	1868.00	1363.50
Enut	Show	A K
ChipFatty	Show	J A
Flop
		J 8 8
Turn
		10
River
		4
ChipFatty	Win	Two Pairs, Jacks and 8s	1868.00

KK in the £3,000 BH, KK v 85....

Hand History #826490524 (21:22 11/10/2014)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Enut	Small blind		15.00	15.00	4260.00
PhilAny2_Q	Big blind		30.00	45.00	3805.00
	Your hole cards	K K
HAYSIE	Fold
park33	Raise		60.00	105.00	705.00
tantrumboy	Fold
snoxx11	Fold
Enut	Raise		165.00	270.00	4095.00
PhilAny2_Q	Fold
park33	Call		120.00	390.00	585.00
Flop
		A 2 5
Enut	Check
park33	Check
Turn
		6
Enut	Bet		195.00	585.00	3900.00
park33	Call		195.00	780.00	390.00
River
		5
Enut	Bet		390.00	1170.00	3510.00
park33	All-in		390.00	1560.00	0.00
Enut	Show	K K
park33	Show	8 5
park33	Win	Three 5s	1560.00

Exit hand from the £1000 BH, KK v QJ AIP.....

Hand History #826492229 (21:25 11/10/2014)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
bungle72	Small blind		75.00	75.00	2170.00
Enut	Big blind		150.00	225.00	2125.00
	Your hole cards	K K
blacc	Fold
philrafs	Fold
LunarTyke	Raise		300.00	525.00	8595.00
BIGSHANN	Fold
bungle72	Fold
Enut	All-in		2125.00	2650.00	0.00
LunarTyke	Call		1975.00	4625.00	6620.00
Enut	Show	K K
LunarTyke	Show	Q J
Flop
		A 6 5
Turn
		10
River
		6
LunarTyke	Win	Flush to the Ace	4625.00

Exit hand from Mini BH.....

Hand History #826507392 (21:50 11/10/2014)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
NURSEY80	Small blind		100.00	100.00	3852.50
Enut	Big blind		200.00	300.00	2475.00
	Your hole cards	9 A
upagear	Fold
snoxx11	Fold
charsnow	Raise		400.00	700.00	15462.50
NURSEY80	Fold
Enut	All-in		2475.00	3175.00	0.00
charsnow	Call		2275.00	5450.00	13187.50
Enut	Show	9 A
charsnow	Show	A 6
Flop
		Q 8 4
Turn
		2
River
		6
charsnow	Win	Pair of 6s	5450.00

Exit hand from £33 BH.....

Hand History #826517183 (22:10 11/10/2014)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
only1ash	Small blind		40.00	40.00	4225.00
jonnyrkd	Big blind		80.00	120.00	3310.00
	Your hole cards	K K
davecharms	Raise		320.00	440.00	6055.30
skully644	Fold
Enut	Raise		640.00	1080.00	1320.75
TommyD	Fold
only1ash	Fold
jonnyrkd	Fold
davecharms	Call		320.00	1400.00	5735.30
Flop
		4 3 9
davecharms	Check
Enut	All-in		1320.75	2720.75	0.00
davecharms	Call		1320.75	4041.50	4414.55
davecharms	Show	A 5
Enut	Show	K K
Turn
		10
River
		2
davecharms	Win	Straight to the 5	4041.50

and just to finish off a right dozer from the £11 Omaha High Low DYM when I get one outered....

Hand History #826497920 (21:34 11/10/2014)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
eddie2	Small blind		15.00	15.00	2075.00
Dutyfree28	Big blind		30.00	45.00	2065.00
	Your hole cards	8 K 5 K
elleben2	Fold
botneck	Call		30.00	75.00	2140.00
Enut	Call		30.00	105.00	1735.00
eon1961	Fold
eddie2	Raise		135.00	240.00	1940.00
Dutyfree28	Fold
botneck	Call		120.00	360.00	2020.00
Enut	Call		120.00	480.00	1615.00
Flop
		K 2 2
eddie2	Bet		480.00	960.00	1460.00
botneck	Raise		960.00	1920.00	1060.00
Enut	Call		960.00	2880.00	655.00
eddie2	Call		480.00	3360.00	980.00
Turn
		3
eddie2	Check
botneck	All-in		1060.00	4420.00	0.00
Enut	All-in		655.00	5075.00	0.00
eddie2	All-in		980.00	6055.00	0.00
botneck	Unmatched bet		80.00	5975.00	80.00
eddie2	Show	J A A A
botneck	Show	5 2 7 3
Enut	Show	8 K 5 K
River
		A
eddie2	Win high	Full House, Aces and 2s	2987.50		2987.50
botneck	Win low	7-low	2987.50

churchy18

it stings when things are going like this been the same for me for a while just need too keep going and hopefully the tide will turn im sure you will turn it back around.

 gl and all the best churchy

GELDY

great post

you get hit by all that and you still don´t move over to the dark side (RNG is rigged etc etc)

had KK 4 times in an hour the other day, in just 2 tournies i played.

every single flop had an A

the 2 aipfs were against A rags

the other 2 saw my c-bets raised suggesting similar.

rivermunky

unlucky Enut i know how you feel ! i ran golden for a while ! one week i final tabled about 7 times in some pretty big tourneys then went on a massive downswing and i wasnt playing amy different when i was winning to  when i was losing  ! it does get to you and you start to question your play and it knocks your confidence a bit ! maybe just have a little break for a week and come back all fresh and see how things go ! if you do happen to find some luck ship some over as if it wasnt for bad luck i wouldnt have any luck at all ! RUN BETTER

Enut

Thanks for your responses, needless to say I took a day off after that.

The next time I sat down for a session I late regged for a £22 BH MTT  and after about 15 minutes got it all in pre with 10's versus 5's. The turn card was.........a 5! More of the same I thought! Then miraculously the bad beats stopped (mostly) and although I only min cashed in the mini I did win 4/4 £11 dyms and ended the session with a little profit.  More importantly I had regained some belief that getting it all in miles ahead wasn't necessarily a bad thing.

Run well peeps.

Enut

What happened to the last two posts? I had just formulated an excellent response to the muppet who claimed it's all rigged and that I am 'a bit slow', logged in to post it and his post and Tikay's reply were no longer there.

 It's a bit sad if it was deleted by the powers that be. I can stand up for myself!

Tikay10

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this......:

What happened to the last two posts? I had just formulated an excellent response to the muppet who claimed it's all rigged and that I am 'a bit slow', logged in to post it and his post and Tikay's reply were no longer there.  It's a bit sad if it was deleted by the powers that be. I can stand up for myself!
Posted by Enut

The Post was removed, Tuney, (& so I removed my reply, too) because it not only cast doubts on the integrity of Sky Poker, it also insulted the player base, & especially you.

People insult Sky Poker, & it's staff, every day, so be it, whatever.

But when they start insulting the players too, that is too much.
 
This, by the way, was from the gentleman who suggested "Donttellmum" was a bot, his proof being "nobody could possibly play 6 tables at a time".

Enut

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this......:

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this...... : The Post was removed, Tuney, (& so I removed my reply, too) because it not only cast doubts on the integrity of Sky Poker, it also insulted the player base, & especially you. People insult Sky Poker, & it's staff, every day, so be it, whatever. But when they start insulting the players too, that is too much.   This, by the way, was from the gentleman who suggested "Donttellmum" was a bot, his proof being "nobody could possibly play 6 tables at a time".
Posted by Tikay10

OK Tikay thanks for clarifying that. I actually took his post as a compliment as, despite obviously being 'a bit slow' and playing on a site that he claimed was rigged, I still manage to make a (small) profit!

Tikay10

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this......:

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this...... : OK Tikay thanks for clarifying that. I actually took his post as a compliment as, despite obviously being 'a bit slow' and playing on a site that he claimed was rigged, I still manage to make a (small) profit!
Posted by Enut

Lol, I did chuckle at you being described as "a bit slow & naive". If only he knew.......

Coming from someone who thought "Donttelmum" was a "bot" because he 6 tables was quite interesting.

cenachav

I thought that DTM only 6 tabled on his days off!

GASLIGHT

Yeh,I heard DTM had a 20 piece drum set and taped ipads to each drum with sky poker tables open no them and played away for hours with drum sticks!!! :-)

Hope your bad ''variance''run ends soon Enut...sure it will

Enut

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this......:

Yeh,I heard DTM had a 20 piece drum set and taped ipads to each drum with sky poker tables open no them and played away for hours with drum sticks!!! :-) Hope your bad ''variance''run ends soon Enut...sure it will
Posted by GASLIGHT

Well it hasn't yet! I am now contemplating folding when I know I am ahead simply because my hands are just not holding up. Exit hands last night included all in on a 8 high flop with a pair of 10s get called by AQ, he hits the A on the river and barrelling two streets with top two pair only to see the undercard pair on the river, sure enough my opponent had called two streets with third pair no kicker, to river his set!

I'm not letting people hit cheaply in these hands either -  people must have notes on me saying 'this bloke runs really badly, call with anything as you'll out draw him'.

I think the God of variance hates me just because I'm an atheist! I'm not greedy I don't want to run well, just stop running this badly.

Onwards and upwards.
  

PuppetJack

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this......:

unlucky Enut i know how you feel ! i ran golden for a while ! one week i final tabled about 7 times in some pretty big tourneys then went on a massive downswing and i wasnt playing amy different when i was winning to  when i was losing  ! it does get to you and you start to question your play and it knocks your confidence a bit ! maybe just have a little break for a week and come back all fresh and see how things go ! if you do happen to find some luck ship some over as if it wasnt for bad luck i wouldnt have any luck at all ! RUN BETTER
Posted by rivermunky

This is EXACTLY Where my head is at right now.

swanstu

Heads up monster hand I river King flush (unpaired board) he's rivered Ace flush.

Yep. Nice. Thanks.

Slipwater

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this......:

Heads up monster hand I river King flush (unpaired board) he's rivered Ace flush. Yep. Nice. Thanks.
Posted by swanstu

Losing a king high flush to an ace high flush is hardly even worth the time it took you to post that, mate.

swanstu

Yep, massively likely to happen with only two players playing on a crucial hand in the tournament.......

Slipwater

In Response to Re: You can claim it's rigged if you can beat this......:

Yep, massively likely to happen with only two players playing on a crucial hand in the tournament.......
Posted by swanstu

I didn't say it was 'massively likely'.

Enut

A funny one last night in a £22 BH. Matt Bates went out with QQ against QQ AIP when his opponent hit a flush. I made a comment about the fact I'd never seen him have a bad beat (in jest).

I think it was the very next hand when I was all in pre against the same opponent. We both had AQ and again he hit the flush.

I should have kept my mouth shut!