Is there an argument for folding here??

duonross

Was in a £6 super roller direct sat with 8 people left 1 seat gtd. No reads on opponent. Felt like I am almost never good on river but can I fold given the price im given?

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
duonross	Small blind		30.00	30.00	3910.00
MAXALLY	Big blind		60.00	90.00	7032.50
	Your hole cards	6 6
Gcrane	Fold
x	Raise		120.00	210.00	1905.00
cazro	Fold
duonross	Call		90.00	300.00	3820.00
MAXALLY	Fold
Flop
		A K 2
duonross	Check
x	Check
Turn
		6
duonross	Bet		120.00	420.00	3700.00
x	Call		120.00	540.00	1785.00
River
		10
duonross	Bet		300.00	840.00	3400.00
x	Raise		720.00	1560.00	1065.0

77Chris91

Nope. Calling pretty quickly.

Only really behind to 10's it doesn't make much sense for QJ/KK/AA to check behind on the flop.

Villain could be over-valuing A10/K10 with this line.

rusty762

It's hard to say wether you let JQ get there because your bet size looked a little small on the turn and encouraged villain to flick in another 120.

So if you had bet bigger and got the same call I would then have discounted JQ in the range of calls as vilain stack is pretty light to be making thin calls for a gutshot.

He may also have played 10's this way too, worried about overcards on flop, hence checking back.

But as played , and with your stack, I think I call off the 420 for pot odds 4/1

F_Ivanovic

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Nope. Calling pretty quickly. Only really behind to 10's it doesn't make much sense for QJ/KK/AA to check behind on the flop. Villain could be over-valuing A10/K10 with this line.
Posted by 77Chris91

QJ is possibe but that and TT are only hands we lose to. Most of time when raised OTR on sky it's a strong value hand as opposed to a thin value raise... (I'd argue AT makes little sense since if AT isn't betting flop then it probably isn't value raising river - KT, maybe. But it has less value in a river raise anyway.)

But yeah despite this our odds are just too good to justify folding in fear of a couple hands. Be interesting if we were facing a larger raise.

Glenelg

Was in a £6 super roller direct sat with 8 people left 1 seat gtd.

Am I the only one thinking "fold pre"?  JUst asking as 66  meh?  Also, you're getting your self in a world of pain unless you hit 6 on flop?  #justsayin

Think ya being sucked in....  GG

crassh

In Response to Re: Is there an argument for folding here??:

Was in a £6 super roller direct sat with 8 people left 1 seat gtd. Am I the only one thinking "fold pre"?  JUst asking as 66  meh?  Also, you're getting your self in a world of pain unless you hit 6 on flop?  #justsayin Think ya being sucked in....  GG
Posted by Glenelg

Fold pre ..... really??  You can never fold pre here to a min raise, you're probably even calling a 3-bet here if you're closing the betting.  Small pocket pairs can be hard to play, I agree but they can be very profitable, usually if you hit the 6 but there are chips to be made even if you miss. 

As for the hand, as many have said, it's a quick call, you may be unlucky and be behind but you are ahead a lot more than you are behind.

hhyftrftdr

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In Response to Re: Is there an argument for folding here?? : Fold pre ..... really??  You can never fold pre here to a min raise, you're probably even calling a 3-bet here if you're closing the betting.  Small pocket pairs can be hard to play, I agree but they can be very profitable, usually if you hit the 6 but there are chips to be made even if you miss.  As for the hand, as many have said, it's a quick call, you may be unlucky and be behind but you are ahead a lot more than you are behind.
Posted by crassh

Big mistake in a sat I think. Plus you're rarely closing the betting unless it's squeezed by the BB and flatted by OR. If it's 3bet before it gets to us then it's a clear fold IMO.

F_Ivanovic

Fold pre is a bit on nitty side but not terrible. calling a 3bet on the other hand with 66 would be