maniac+2 fish hold AK in sat with a fish and maniac together call reraise or shove?

craigcu12

the fish wasn't really much of an issue but the maniac was playing this MTT like someone who is playing a turbo, my concern is that if i miss the A or K because i'm questioning weather or not to protect my chips from the maniac who will do all he can to take the chips away but the other side to the coin is i don't want to loose out to a fish.

craigcu12	Small blind		20.00	20.00	2805.00
Bromley023	Big blind		40.00	60.00	2417.50
	Your hole cards	A K
pixie919	Raise		120.00	180.00	3055.00
fish	Call		120.00	300.00	1252.50
fish	Fold
maniac	Raise		200.00	500.00	4285.00
craigcu12	Call		180.00

pixie919	Small blind		40.00	40.00	4900.00
fish	Big blind		80.00	120.00	1682.50
	Your hole cards	A K
maniac	Raise		240.00	360.00	9235.00
craigcu12	2102.50

Phantom66

i would reraise pre especially how you describe the table.

happy to get it all in pre v a maniac with ak.

By calling 1st hand you more or less guaranteed 4 way action with ak which is not where we want to be.

cant see your stack size which may affect advice.

Daisy666

In Response to maniac+2 fish hold AK in sat with a fish and maniac together call reraise or shove?:

the fish wasn't really much of an issue but the maniac was playing this MTT like someone who is playing a turbo, my concern is that if i miss the A or K because i'm questioning weather or not to protect my chips from the maniac who will do all he can to take the chips away but the other side to the coin is i don't want to loose out to a fish. craigcu12 Small blind   20.00 20.00 2805.00 Bromley023 Big blind   40.00 60.00 2417.50   Your hole cards A K       pixie919 Raise   120.00 180.00 3055.00 fish Call   120.00 300.00 1252.50 fish Fold         maniac Raise   200.00 500.00 4285.00 craigcu12 Call   180.00   pixie919 Small blind   40.00 40.00 4900.00 fish Big blind   80.00 120.00 1682.50   Your hole cards A K       maniac Raise   240.00 360.00 9235.00 craigcu12 ?
Posted by craigcu12

your chips are there to be used, in any event id like to know how you define a FISH a term i often see used by beaten players,

maybe the trick is to make you think your up agin a fish!!!!

craigcu12

In Response to Re: maniac+2 fish hold AK in sat with a fish and maniac together call reraise or shove?:

In Response to maniac+2 fish hold AK in sat with a fish and maniac together call reraise or shove? : your chips are there to be used, in any event id like to know how you define a FISH a term i often see used by beaten players, maybe the trick is to make you think your up agin a fish!!!!
Posted by Daisy666

people who are considered fish are those i've seen limping and calling consistantly.

it's got nothing to do with wins or losses and infact i love fish long term because they will give me losts of cash and lots of chip, the difference with this MTT is it's not about getting 1st place it's about preserving chips and getting past the bubble, fish i can see folding a lot of the time of A high or K high flops.

my main issue was not the fish it was the maniac because sats are about preserving chips not using them, so if i missed the A or K on flop, i'll likely have to give up or do the risky shove.

Lambert180

In a satellite I think calling is fine in both spots.