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played badly...but is this an insta call?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| y | Small blind | 50.00 | 50.00 | 4305.00 | |
| devonfish5 | Big blind | 100.00 | 150.00 | 1865.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| REDARROW61 | Raise | 200.00 | 350.00 | 1745.00 | |
| Frankie122 | Fold | ||||
| Rumpy | Call | 200.00 | 550.00 | 1745.00 | |
| y | Call | 150.00 | 700.00 | 4155.00 | |
| devonfish5 | Call | 100.00 | 800.00 | 1765.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| y | Check | ||||
| devonfish5 | Bet | 100.00 | 900.00 | 1665.00 | |
| REDARROW61 | Fold | ||||
| Rumpy | Call | 100.00 | 1000.00 | 1645.00 | |
| y | Raise | 650.00 | 1650.00 | 3505.00 | |
| devonfish5 | Fold | ||||
| Rumpy | Fold | ||||
| y | Muck | ||||
| y | Win | 1100.00 | 4605.00 | ||
| y | Return | 550.00 | 0.00 | 5155.00 | |
Comments
Folding what you think is the best hand not to look silly? Really?
Would've thought it was a simple check call the flop and go from there.
Should probably just fold pre if that's the case.
I think most are checking this to the PFR. Chances of getting a free card are probably quite good.
Look, I don't think anyone folds pre. Just give up poker if you do. Granted, multiway we might want to be looking at smashing a flop as opposed to hitting it sideways like this. Leading out with any sizing here is a mistake IMO. With one diamond on board and TPTK, I think we need to see what others do and go from there. It might well be bet and raised before it gets back to use, so easy fold. It might be checked through and we hit a gin turn card. To lead then fold is just pointless.
Thoughts on shoving pre? I don't play with these guys so no idea on their game, but we realistically only have to get the shove through RedArrow, as the others have pretty capped ranges. There is about 40% of our stack in the middle, and the chance to get it without even seeing a flop. Unlikely to get looked up by worse but can fold out plenty of flips.
As above, it just makes no sense why we would donk bet the flop at all imo (putting aside the sizing issue).
Few really flawed thought processes from you in this thread, like 'not wanting to lose a game with TPTK'...
1) How do you know you're gonna lose?
2) Forget about the finite strength of our hand and think about the relative strength of it. Sometimes TPGK is effectively the nuts, sometimes top 2pr is just never good.
I'd c/c a reasonable bet size and re-assess on the turn depending on how many called the flop, who it was that bet the flop, what the turn card is etc. Remember, you said if you c/c it's all gonna do in anyway, well that just isn't true. So many people are gonna cbet here with say AK then just completely lock up when called (if they don't improve), likewise someone may cbet JT here and then slow down to keep the pot under control etc. Just cos someone bets the flop doesn't mean they're firing 3 barrels everytime.
Fwiw, I make a ton of mistakes every single day, almost every single player in the world does, professional or not.