888 Pull their DYMs

gerardirl

Well done again 888, first they remove sharkscope without any notice and now they remove dyms except for super turbo (ie bingo) and again without notice.

This is another example of why sky are the best ...they communicate with their customers!

Good news for sky as it is bringing even more players over to sky.

Sky should promote themselves more online as Im sure they can get all the british 888 players to switch to sky now.

Ger

stuarty117

Hi Ger

Use to play a few there and the 10 seater ones are so boring, takes an hour for the normal speed ones no wonder they have been pulled.

MattBates

A lot of sites have removed DYMs due to them inherently easier to collude in than other games, don't know the sky view on them but that's the view of other sites.

Phantom66

That's an interesting take - but collusion should be fairly easy to spot through auto-analysis of HHS and certainly to investigate and follow up if reported directly by a "victim".

Anything that gets more traffic to standard SNGs is of interest to me though.

MrWh1te

I have tried getting to the bottom of this gerardirl, all I can conclude is 'it is a business decision' which I think is a pretty poor statement

Phantom66

Thinking about it perhaps they pulled both s/scope and dyms because the authorities spotted something that the site hadn't itself using the information available on s/scope?
[disclaimer - pure speculation!]

TeddyBloat

i'd be surprised if the two were related.

DYM's are notorious for colluision as due to the weight of ICM considerations it is so easy for two colluders to steal equity from the other players. there was a huge ring on stars that led to there being limits placed on the number of chinese accounts being allowed to sit on the same tables.

i'd imagine the cost of policing, investigating and refunding, coupled with the associated hassle made the decision for them.

Jac35

Totally agree with Matt that Dyms are the easiest game to collude in.

But, I don't think it's a big issue on Sky. The smaller player base means that colluders get spotted quickly.

There was blatant colluding 6 months or so by a couple of regs. Sky dealt with it straight away, banned the players and refunded those affected.

I've played a lot of Dyms on here and I think that collusion is pretty rare.

MattBates

In Response to Re: 888 Pull their DYMs:

i'd be surprised if the two were related. DYM's are notorious for colluision as due to the weight of ICM considerations it is so easy for two colluders to steal equity from the other players. there was a huge ring on stars that led to there being limits placed on the number of chinese accounts being allowed to sit on the same tables. i'd imagine the cost of policing, investigating and refunding, coupled with the associated hassle made the decision for them.
Posted by TeddyBloat

nailed it!

MP33

In Response to Re: 888 Pull their DYMs:

That's an interesting take - but collusion should be fairly easy to spot through auto-analysis of HHS and certainly to investigate and follow up if reported directly by a "victim". Anything that gets more traffic to standard SNGs is of interest to me though.
Posted by Phantom66

Unfortanely most ppl on sites dont even notice and dont,t do anthing about it anyway in my experiences. My worst thing is race leaderboards for pts etc and ppl teaming up - while the other gets some kip So hard to spot as well

Dont know how to stop it