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vegas help.

edited January 2015 in Poker Chat
I'm going away with the missus and her sister and partner next september. The plan is vegas for 5 days and L.A. for 5 days.

Any advice on nice hotels on the strip but for a decent price? Also poker wise I have a pass, but not a 3daydeepstacktournie-pass. Are there stt's / 1day tournies that are recommended? Any tips on cheap flights, shows, nice things for couples etc would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance.


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  • edited December 2014
    Teddy! My experiences....

    Location! Ideally you wanna be anywhere from Luxor at the base of the Strip, through to The Mirage. The fountains at Bellagio is basically the middle of the Strip, so anything around there means you are very central. DO NOT be seduced by the cheap prices of Stratosphere, Riviera or Circus Circus hotels; these are way too far north and will require a lot of walking to get to the action. And walking in the Vegas heat in Spetember isn't fun, trust me ;)

    I've stayed at Planet Hollywood, Flamingo and Riviera (so ^ is from experience!). Some of the hotel rooms can be a little dated, but all the rooms are generally massive and have everything you need. We got 5 nights at PH for £155 per room earlier this year, and its very central. Other hotels in a similar price bracket are New York New York, Luxor, Monte Carlo and Tropicana. Ones like MGM Grand and Mandalay Bay are a little more expensive, then you have Bellagio, Caesars Palace, Aria etc that are at the top end. It depends on how much you have to play with, as you can get some good deals at the 'expensive' hotels if you time it right. The cheapest hotel at the action end of the Strip is probably Excalibur.

    Staying a weekend really pushes your hotel bill up, as can events like boxing or UFC. If you want to keep the cost fairly modest then do Sunday-Thursday in Vegas. And watch out for resort fees. Nearly all hotels do them in Vegas. Usually hovering around $20 per room per night (give or take), it covers stuff like gym access, bottled water, internet for one device etc etc. Payable on checking out. A couple of hotels don't do it. When I stayed at Flamingo in 2011 there was no resort fee.

    Flights. Virgin and Thomas Cook fly direct from Manchester to Vegas (but not LA). I've recently used a trick of flying from Dublin. Not only do you save £££ vs flying from the UK, but you also go through US immigration in Dublin and thus avoid what can be very lengthy queues on the other side of the pond. If you're wanting a multi stop flight, then your best options are probably gonna be from London. BA will do a direct jobby. Others might require a single change heading out or back but can save you a few quid.

    Tournaments. You are spoilt for choice, but it does depend on what you want. Some of them have very crapshooty structures, like 15 minute blinds are starting stacks of 50bb or less. If you want to sit down and look to play a 'proper' tournament with a good structure then I'd recommend the ones at Aria hotel. They have a 30 min clock, 200bb SS and feature all the levels, with antes from level 5 I think it is. They do 2 of these a day, 1pm and 7pm. 1pm one is much busier in my experience. No guarantees but there was prizepools of between $12 and $15,000 when I played them. Buy in is $125. Standard is poor :) Bellagio and Venetian also run $125 tournaments but nowhere near as busy in my experience. Can get tournaments from about $35 buy ins +, but the cheaper it is the more crapshooty it is.....can be good fun though if you just want a quick gamble. Sorry, no idea about SNG's.

    Don't forget your ESTA!
  • edited December 2014
    Other stuff....

    I've never really done a show in LV. There are tons though. Some outlets on the Strip sell tickets for stuff showing that evening at half price or less, so don't worry about booking anything in advance unless it's Celine Dion or whatever is popular these days.

    They have the worlds largest ferris wheel on the go. $25 ish for a spin. If you like rollercoasters then Stratosphere is a must for their rides. The tower ride at the top is very good and gives you amazing views of the Strip and beyond. There is also the ride at New York New York but I've yet to go on that.

    Tikay will be spitting feathers but thus far the old town and the Grand Canyon stuff has evaded me on the 3 times I've been. There are so many tours and different ways to do them so can pay to look around. Helicopter flights over the Strip are very popular, and might get you in Ms' Bloats good books as they look quite romantic ;)

    I've 'wasted' many an hour gawping at the dealers in the Pleasure Pit at Planet Hollywood. That might remove you from Ms' Bloats good books however.

    If anything else comes to me then I'll yell. Please don't hesitate to give me a shout if you want assistance with flights. My first trip to America in 2011 was a triple centre jobby taking in NY, LV and San Fran, did it all DIY so I have experience of stuff like this and the best sites to look on.
  • edited December 2014
    Wow, thanks .

    I've had a look at flying from dublin, who did you fly with? Skyscanner had a really cheap flight, but it went via gatwick?!? Some of the other sites expedia etc weren't much cheaper from dublin comapared to manchester?
  • edited December 2014
    Yeah I should have specified more clearly regarding Dublin above.

    I've used the Dublin trick twice now. In May, I went from Dublin to London, then direct onto Vegas using Virgin Atlantic (all one booking) This meant I didn't clear US customs until landing in Vegas.

    In September, I flew from Dublin to Chicago on American Airlines, then onwards to LV. Cleared US customs in Dublin and landed in Chicago (and Vegas obvs) as a domestic passenger. So some of the flights will head straight out to America, whereas some others will fly back on yourself to London first. Depends who you fly with and their schedules.

    If you're thinking of doing a multi stop flight, then I don't think Dublin will be worthwhile unless you stumble across a bargain. An open jaw flight is also an option. If you have an idea of dates then I'll happily have a mooch around for you if you wanted.
  • edited December 2014
    Give you a guideline Teddy.

    Can get London - LA - LV - London, all direct using Delta airlines, for just shy of £700 from the 7th-17th September. Solid flight times and will include baggage and refreshments, though American carriers tend to charge for alcoholic drinks.
  • edited December 2014
    Thomas cook have a direct from manchester for £347,  which seems reasonable so thanks for the heads up on them. We were looking at leaving Blighty around the 6th if september. Also planet hollywood looks good value, so we are looking at staying there. Again thanks for the advice harry

    I have no idea what an open jaw flight is lol.


  • edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    Give you a guideline Teddy. Can get London - LA - LV - London, all direct using Delta airlines, for just shy of £700 from the 7th-17th September. Solid flight times and will include baggage and refreshments, though American carriers tend to charge for alcoholic drinks.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr

    Ok cheers man.

    Do you think ill be able to replicate that leaving and returning ro manchester. Id you tell me which sites to scan I'll do the donkey work.

    Thanks again.
  • edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    Thomas cook have a direct from manchester for £347,  which seems reasonable so thanks for the heads up on them. We were looking at leaving Blighty around the 6th if september. Also planet hollywood looks good value, so we are looking at staying there. Again thanks for the advice harry I have no idea what an open jaw flight is lol.
    Posted by TeddyBloat
    I have no idea what a Nash calling/shoving chart is ;) open jaw flight is flying into one city and out of another, saves going back on yourself. So in your example it would be UK - LA - LV - UK.

    FWIW, the above dates, 7th-17th, using flights from Manchester is actually cheaper than London, and just the one stop going out. £663 using Virgin Atlantic, including the direct LV-Manchester service coming home. The stop going out could be a blessing in disguise as LA immigration is a notoriously laboured process.
  • edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    In Response to Re: vegas help. : Ok cheers man. Do you think ill be able to replicate that leaving and returning ro manchester. Id you tell me which sites to scan I'll do the donkey work. Thanks again.
    Posted by TeddyBloat
    See above :)
  • edited December 2014
    Legend, thanks
  • edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    Legend, thanks
    Posted by TeddyBloat
    Welcome sir.

    It's a decent price using a good airline, especially from Manchester. Virgin are better than BA I find. Site I use is fly.com if you want to tinker with dates and stuff.
  • edited December 2014

    Teddy,

    You have a PM from me.
  • edited December 2014
    I have only been to Las Vegas once, and at the time I didn't play Poker, so I will give you my top tips for pleasing the missus (fnar, fnar).

    Freemont st and the old town is a must, just to see the light show and all the Vegas landmarks, The Star Trek exibition at The Hilton was very good, if you are a bit of a sci fi nerd like me.

    Blue Man Group are pretty much in with the bricks and definitely worth seeing.

    If you play golf try and get to TPC Summerlin its a great facility.

    The Grand Canyon trip is amazing, its really only when you are there that the scale hits you, we did a breakfast and helicopter trip (very early start and I am still paying for it :-)), they pick you up in a limo drive you to helicopter, fly to the Canyon, you have a picnic breakfast, then go sightseeing, if that doesn't buy you at least one free pass for an all day event nothing will......

    We also went indoor skydiving and it was a great laugh, can't quite remember the name of the place.

     Hhy is bang on about the Stratosphere, its was a bit tired and I wouldn't stay there (we stayed at Mandalay Bay, further down the strip beside Luxor and opposite MGM Grand). but the rollercoaster at the top is amazing. They also had a ride like Dr Doom (adventure Island Orlando) which shoots you up the spire (remember you are already about 1000 ft up)

    What else did we do........thats it, we got married,  The Little Chapel very nice man.

    Neil
  • edited December 2014
    BTW 

    Try NOT to stay in central LA, we stayed in Santa Monica, it is really nice and right next to Venice Beach (but more upmarket), close enough to all the places you really want to see.

    Hire a car, LA is not really designed with public transport in mind (although locally around Venice and S. Monica there are good buses).

    Potentially worth looking into some of the tours (not the Holywood home stuff, unless thats what you're into) lots of good stuff from, Dogtown skateboarding (a passion of mine in my youth) to underground artwork, we missed a lot of that as we were with my brother in law who studied film in L.A so ''knew all the places to go......''

    To be fair to him we did see a lot of film set stuff, we followed the route from 'Falling Down' one of my fave movies and drank in various famous bars etc. 

    Have a great time.

  • edited December 2014
    Going to Vegas in May for the 1st time. Above advice is much appreciated. Cheers Teddy for asking the question and cheers hhyftrftdr and Hendricks for info :-)
  • edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    Going to Vegas in May for the 1st time. Above advice is much appreciated. Cheers Teddy for asking the question and cheers hhyftrftdr and Hendricks for info :-)
    Posted by evsbach
    We fly out on the 29th May, just in time for this new $565 WSOP event guaranteed at $5m. Run good one time!
  • edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    In Response to Re: vegas help. : We fly out on the 29th May, just in time for this new $565 WSOP event guaranteed at $5m. Run good one time!
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Will just miss you, out there from 22nd for a week. Good luck!
  • edited December 2014
    hendrik, top man. thanks so much.
  • edited December 2014

    Caesars Palace also has a good variety of deepstack tournaments that are well structured. 

    It all depends on how long your pass out from the missus is.  The one I played there was $110 buy in, and started at 12 Noon, and finished in a chop for the last 3 Players at 11 PM.  The chop was for about 3K.

  • edited December 2014
    Do a Cirque du Soleil show if possible. Doesn't matter which one, they will all be spectacular.
  • edited December 2014
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    Do a Cirque du Soleil show if possible. Doesn't matter which one, they will all be spectacular.
    Posted by FCHD
    Yeh Zarkana at the Aria was unreal. Battlefield 24/7 was tons of fun, the show at caesers is I here v good things about aswell. Wynn buffet very nice,  Ellis Island resturant a short cab drive off strip I had one of the best meals ever for about $14 + drink 
  • edited December 2014
    So much great advice here.

    I think that your best option for a good daily tournie would be either the Aria or the Venetian.  Caesars used to have them too but they closed their room and now just have a small cash game area.  I think that both the Aria and Venetians are gonna be the best strutured tournies that you'll find in Vegas, and I'd from memory they are $120-$150 and probably run twice a day.  If the Venetian has a deepstack series coming up then they will offer 1 table SnGs too which pay out in cash so that could be another option.

    You'll also find a lot of rooms offer hyper turbo 15-20 min clock tournies if you are after a bit of fun. Of course on the strip you are never far from a nice 1/2 game, which even if cash isn't your main game, I'd advise just playing for a couple of hours as its always fun and you'll meet interesting people!

    Now something to remember to try at check in is the $20 trick.  Just say to the clerk, if you could find a free upgrade I'd really appreciate it with the money in the passport/with your credit card.  It's not 100% to work but I've done it 4 times and it's always been a worthwhile investment.  At the very least you'll get a refurb room/nicer view but for a 5 day stay there is potential for a decent room upgrade too.  As Brits we are embarrased to ask BUT just remember you'll never see the person again and the check in people get asked this many times a day so you have nothing to lose!  One time I had a bog standard room booked at the Palms and got upgraded to an apartment with a balcony so its def worth it!
    Whichever hotel you opt for just google the name and $20 trick as some of them you have no chance in, however most of them are fine and it's standard Vegas practice.

    Someone mentioned the Planet Hollywood for staying in.  I like the casino BUT it is most certainly the loudest on the strip and certainly aims for a younger clientelle than the average Vegas casino.  It is fun tho!

    Try both the comparison sites and also the hotels direct when booking.  Make sure to google 'Aria voucher code' or whatever before booking as usually you can find something that can save you a few $$$s too.


  • edited January 2015
    Bump!

    For Teddy and anyone interested, Thomas Cook are doing a sale that includes direct Manchester - Las Vegas returns from £549, including 23kg luggage allowance and a 3 course meal. Think it's certain dates from May to December.

    Very good price if you can nab one of the sale leading fares.
  • edited January 2015
    Just been reading over these posts wana go to vegas now ...
    Just need to talk to the other half nicely ....
  • edited January 2015
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    Bump! For Teddy and anyone interested, Thomas Cook are doing a sale that includes direct Manchester - Las Vegas returns from £549, including 23kg luggage allowance and a 3 course meal. Think it's certain dates from May to December. Very good price if you can nab one of the sale leading fares.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    I just had a looksee at Virgin Atlantic reward seat sale.  Only useful if you have Virgin airmiles though (or Tesco points that you can convert to miles).  The sale is on on now - 31875 airmiles plus £217 cash for economy return to Vegas.  £51 of Tesco vouchers would get you the 31875 miles.  I have a quick look (more in hope than anticipation) and found lots and lots of availablity for the airmile seats.
  • edited January 2015
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    In Response to Re: vegas help. : I just had a looksee at Virgin Atlantic reward seat sale.  Only useful if you have Virgin airmiles though (or Tesco points that you can convert to miles).  The sale is on on now - 31875 airmiles plus £217 cash for economy return to Vegas.  £51 of Tesco vouchers would get you the 31875 miles.  I have a quick look (more in hope than anticipation) and found lots and lots of availablity for the airmile seats.
    Posted by IrishRose
    Does that £217 figure include taxes/fees or is that to go on top?
  • edited January 2015
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    In Response to Re: vegas help. : Does that £217 figure include taxes/fees or is that to go on top?
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    The £217 is the figure for taxes and fees.  The "price" of the ticket is 31875 virgin airmiles :)   I have approx 600,000 airmiles lol but still can't convince hubby to go to Vegas :(
  • edited January 2015
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    In Response to Re: vegas help. : The £217 is the figure for taxes and fees.  The "price" of the ticket is 31875 virgin airmiles :)   I have approx 600,000 airmiles lol but still can't convince hubby to go to Vegas :(
    Posted by IrishRose
    That's really good then! Return to Vegas for a couple hundred quid and he still doesn't wanna go?!

    Just divorce him.

    Might even look at getting them Tesco vouchers myself.
  • edited January 2015
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    Do a Cirque du Soleil show if possible. Doesn't matter which one, they will all be spectacular.
    Posted by FCHD
    La Reve at the Wynn is amazing...in fact everything at the Wynn is amazing...just stay at the Wynn!
  • edited January 2015
    In Response to Re: vegas help.:
    Do a Cirque du Soleil show if possible. Doesn't matter which one, they will all be spectacular.
    Posted by FCHD
    do more than one!
    they really are that good
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