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edited February 2015 in Poker Chat
What are the odds of one of two players with pocket aces hitting a flush

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  • edited February 2015
    The odds are so chilling, you're better off not knowing.
  • edited February 2015


    less than 15/1... edit ... lower  than 31/1... second edit 22/1



     
  • edited February 2015
    Any aces vs aces is a 95.65% chance of being a split pot, so the odds of either hand winning outright (which can only be achieved with a flush), is 2.17%.

    Pretty chilling :)
  • edited February 2015


    also, the chance that both players hit a flush is 255/1



     
  • edited February 2015
    Each player has 2.17% chance of making a flush. That's the same as a 45/1 shot.

    In the long run this will be a chop 22 out of every 23 times, one or other of the players will scoop the pot the other 1 out of 23.

    To put this in perspective rolling tow sixes from a pair of dices will only happen 1 in every 36 attempts, so aces beating aces in poker is no big deal really.
  • edited February 2015
    In Response to Re: unlucky or bad beat:
    also, the chance that both players hit a flush is 255/1  
    Posted by aussie09

    Okay, that's puzzling me.

    Do you mean that the board comes down all the same suit, so both players make a flush, but one of them will have the nut flush ?
  • edited February 2015

    A highly unlikely scenario is a chop with both players playing a straight flush on the board.

    Sometimes a royal flush will beat the other players king-high straight flush on the board. An extremely unlikely event as it requires the run-out to be one of four combos of 9TJQK suited, but I bet it's happened somewhere.

  • edited February 2015
    In Response to Re: unlucky or bad beat:
    In Response to Re: unlucky or bad beat : Okay, that's puzzling me. Do you mean that the board comes down all the same suit, so both players make a flush, but one of them will have the nut flush ?
    Posted by Fortunatus

    yes. 


    you know that it nothing more than being a little bit careful about the question being asked.  the OP question sounds as though the answer must be something astrnomical but we are given aces for both players.


     
  • edited February 2015
    In Response to Re: unlucky or bad beat:
    Each player has 2.17% chance of making a flush. That's the same as a 45/1 shot. In the long run this will be a chop 22 out of every 23 times, one or other of the players will scoop the pot the other 1 out of 23. To put this in perspective rolling tow sixes from a pair of dices will only happen 1 in every 36 attempts, so aces beating aces in poker is no big deal really.
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    So effectively losing a hand AA vs AA all in pre is the same (give or take) as getting it all in on the turn and oppo hits their 'miracle' 1-outer?

    Good stat of the day, posters.
  • edited February 2015
    Wouldn't the odds of a flush board with 2 players holding aces be

    12/48 * 11/47 * 10/46 * 9/45 * 8/46, then multiplied by 4 to cover any suit.

    Which is 540/1, or am I competely overthinking this ?
  • edited February 2015
    In Response to Re: unlucky or bad beat:
    Wouldn't the odds of a flush board with 2 players holding aces be 12/48 * 11/47 * 10/46 * 9/45 * 8/46, then multiplied by 4 to cover any suit. Which is 540/1, or am I competely overthinking this ?
    Posted by Fortunatus

    whatever the first card suit, the odds that the next card is the same suit is roughly 1 in 4.  and so on.  four cards at i in 4 is 1 in 256 or 255/1




     
  • edited February 2015


    more accurately,..

    11/46  x   10/45   x   9/44   x   8/43

  • edited February 2015
    In Response to Re: unlucky or bad beat:
    more accurately,.. 11/46  x   10/45   x   9/44   x   8/43
    Posted by aussie09

    Isn't that 495/1 ?
  • edited February 2015


    yes.  493/1. 

    you get a tick for your answer being quite close but lose points for your workings.  whereas i get good marks for my workings with a note written in red biro saying that i must pay more attention to detail.





  • edited February 2015
    In Response to Re: unlucky or bad beat:
    yes.  493/1.  you get a tick for your answer being quite close but lose points for your workings.  whereas i get good marks for my workings with a note written in red biro saying that i must pay more attention to detail.
    Posted by aussie09

    Why 11/46 after the first community card ?
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