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Cash Help
Looking for helpful advice from anyone, but hoping to get some feedback from the likes of Dohh, Scotty, james etc. 
With me trying to improve my BR from scratch again, i thought i'd give cash a try.
And whilst i've been playing this morning i've noticed people will call a lot. Is raising nessecary pre flop in cash?
Also i've been buying in for 4 squid, and i lost that pretty quickly as someone raise all-in pre, i had AJ Suited and i called.... they turned over a pair of 3's... flop aj3 lmao.
Anyhow should i be calling all-in with the likes of AJsuiteD? Because if people are thinking pocket 3's are good, then i must of been holding an amazing hand lol.
Anyhow more informaton you could throw my way wouold be greatly appreciated.
With me trying to improve my BR from scratch again, i thought i'd give cash a try.
And whilst i've been playing this morning i've noticed people will call a lot. Is raising nessecary pre flop in cash?
Also i've been buying in for 4 squid, and i lost that pretty quickly as someone raise all-in pre, i had AJ Suited and i called.... they turned over a pair of 3's... flop aj3 lmao.
Anyhow should i be calling all-in with the likes of AJsuiteD? Because if people are thinking pocket 3's are good, then i must of been holding an amazing hand lol.
Anyhow more informaton you could throw my way wouold be greatly appreciated.
Comments
Aup mate - the hand with Ace Jack, just throw it away - ur only racing against the pocket 3s, u might as well go play roulette, red or black, and save youself the rake.
Alot of the time hes shoving ace king ace queen, and ur miles behind, very rarely is he gonna shove ace ten ace 9, which are the only hands you can beat.
Don't get too carried away thinking these guys are bad (hard to do when you see them chucking all in with 33) ...... Stick to a tight aggressive game, don't try and change your own game or let them bring u down to their level.
I'd make most raises pre 5x BB...up to 20, limp with hands such as TJs, low pairs on the button/cut off - and dont get dragged into raised pots with marginal hands just "becoz its only 20p" - Look at the raises as a percentage of a buy in, eg if someone value bets a quid, dont call "just coz its a only a quid" - Its 25% of your buy in - call if ur sure ur winning.
You make the running with strong hands - bet them well (around the pot) and they WILL pay you.
Ill come watch a few hands next time ur on - for better more specific advice, post a few hands from your sessions (winning ones and losing ones), n Im sure the guys will be able to hep ya.
DOHH
I did crack Aces as with my limped ten jack.
Flop:
3 J 10
He raises, i re raise he pushes i call.
Next card 3 and im thinking, im cursed.
River a 10.
very nice
Anyhow will speak to you later
Nice one - pretty standard hand for most low limits, but kinda shows what I mean about limping, the 4p limp won u 4 quid, whereas u raise, get a couple of callers, flops ten high, lead out, get action behind ugh it just gets messy.
Limp, hit big, raise / miss - fold. Simples
Thats the main way ur guna win big pots at cash, its normally cracking aces kings, flopping sets, FH v flush etc - especially lower limits the big pots are gunna decide ur profit/loss - not so much about bluffing, 3 betting etc, the less mistakes u make - the more successful ur guna be.
Get a FEW of tables up if u get bored (and if ur comp can handle it, GRRR) - but dnt get frustrated if things dnt seem to be happenin, it'll come.
Cya l8a fella, DOHH
(5 points behind ya now, Donny in the premiership? haha)
Gna jump on a cash table now, don't think i'll be on for a while got to do some revision
May only be a few p to you, but for the low stakes like myself every penny counts.
Thank anyhow, i will keep on learning
I always hear people saying 'no one ever folds' or 'how can the fish call with that' yet whenever they have a big hand they bet the minimum hoping to trap or to keep people in the hand. You should bet big because, you guessed it, no one ever folds.
At the moment I mainly play on the 10 seaters, I find this size table allows you to see more hands and often you get more callers when you get your hand which can pay off big.
GOT IT
Much appreciated lads, and you use all you need of it dudeskin.
nice 1 lads.
Also, dont get drawn into making marginal calls if someone shoves into you. It's either the nuts or complete air, but let them do it when it's you who has the nuts.
Also, dont get drawn into making marginal calls if someone shoves into you. It's either the nuts or complete air, but let them do it when it's you who has the nuts.
Generally with these hands we will bring it in for 3 times the big blind. If, however, the pot has already been raised then we will generally just call with these hands and the only hands that we re-raise with being AA, KK, QQ, JJ and AK suited and unsuited. The reason that we bring it in for a consistent amount is that we want to disguise what our holding is. Any variation in raise sizing would be based purely on stack sizes, how many handed the game is and whether or not there are antes in play NOT on the strength of our holding.
After the flop If we get called by 1 or 2 opponents we will usually fire out a continuation bet that is usually 2/3 of the pot. We will fire this continuation bet regardless of whether we hit the flop or connect to with it in any fashion. If we get called by more than 2 opponents we will usually check if we flop less than top pair or a big draw. On later streets the line you take is pretty much dependent on the texture of the board, the opponent(s) that are remaining in the pot and your position at the table.
Position is also a very important concept to think about. Generally you want to have aggressive players on your right and passive players on your left. This allows you to be able to play better and make fewer mistakes and with more information on later streets against opponents who are prone to betting and bluffing. Position become less significant against opponents with somewhat tighter hand ranges, such as the players you ideally want on your left, as these people are easier to outplay after the flop and will often allow you take down the blind and antes uncontested. Having position on an opponent simply allows you to play a hand with more information, as you have seen all the other players act and therefore can make wiser decisions on later betting rounds.
I must stress this is a BASIC strategy and can only be truly successfully deployed at the lower limits. This strategy will become more difficult to deploy at stakes above 0.50/1 where the level of play is generally much better, with 3 betting preflop commonplace, and the ability to play well on later streets become much more important. This strategy will not necessarily be successful in shorter handed games where the value of smaller cards is lower and the value in bluffing higher.
The biggest mistakes that beginning poker players make:
1. Playing too many hands before the flop
2. Not betting strongly enough allowing opponents to draw out on you with mathematically the correct odds.
3. Bluffing too much
4. Not being able to fold "big hands".
BrownDog
no seriously this is a great peice for a player looking to start cash, i think its cool u took the time to post it wd
Cheers Browndog, I've recently started on the 2p/4p tables and have found playing solid ABC definitly works. I would also strongly agree with No. 4 folding big hands, this can make a big difference.
On folding big hands, do you have any tips for getting rid of that nagging feeling that you've just been bluffed out of a pot when you do fold on?
I had one yesturday had J high flop someone bet I raised big with QJ, they just called OOP, then Ace on turn they suddenly beg 3/4 of pot. In this situation I have to think why are they betting, would they call on flop for just the ace ?, I don't know but the chances are at the donk level I play at it is very likely, so I made the fold and saved myself some money.