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Oppo does like to take position on me and 3-bets me too frequently to be doing it with absolute premiums only.
I'm not sure 'call' was my best weapon against this, nor sure that KJs is the best hand to take a bit of a stand with.
Upon a bit of weakness on the flop, plus having picked up a gutshot, I thought it'd be rude not to take a stab. I don't think he'd have checked back KK/AA/KQ/AQ and think TT/JJ/AK/AJ/AT type hands may be my 3-bet calling range credit to be ahead on the turn.
I then miss my 4-outer... should I be giving up now the board pairs?
I still feel I can be repping KQ/AQ/88/99/98s here and size a bet based on playing for value... but thoughts on sizing if it is a fair river to bluff at?
Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
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BAGGPUSS | Small blind | | £0.05 | £0.05 | £17.70 |
ImOrthodox | Big blind | | £0.10 | £0.15 | £8.75 |
| Your hole cards | | | | |
skintman | Fold | | | | |
shakinaces | Raise | | £0.30 | £0.45 | £15.78 |
jimmaw | Fold | | | | |
xxxx | Raise | | £1.00 | £1.45 | £17.38 |
BAGGPUSS | Fold | | | | |
ImOrthodox | Fold | | | | |
shakinaces | Call | | £0.70 | £2.15 | £15.08 |
Flop |
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| | | | | |
shakinaces | Check | | | | |
xxxx | Check | | | | |
Turn |
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| | | | | |
shakinaces | Bet | | £1.20 | £3.35 | £13.88 |
xxxx | Call | | £1.20 | £4.55 | £16.18 |
River |
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| | | | | |
shakinaces | Bet | | £2.80 | £7.35 | £11.08 |
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The hands he checks back flop with are either gonna be weak made hands or complete air giving up/hoping to hit something imo. The fact he's called turn means he's unlikely to have air anymore, unless it was like A9 (which isn't air anymore anyway),
I don't think he has any draws for us to get him off, most people who 3bet here are gonna continue the pressure with stuff like JT/J9/FDs etc (not that JT bricked), so his most likely holdings imo will be 8x, weak Qx, maybe JJ/TT, maybe the odd 9x hand, and now that the river has paired the 8, I don't think you're gonna get any of those hands to fold.
In Response to Re: Bluffing gone bad: Re: the two bits in red, this is my thinking on the turn, he has a weak made hand that is pot-controlling. Not entirely sure he'd bet his air here (if he is super-light) as I think my range would be perceived to have caught this flop reasonably well?
I bet turn with expectation I'd likely have to bet river as well, assuming that he likely has lots of 2nd pair hands (TT/JJ/9T/87/A9s/A8s maybe even K9s) and may not necessarily get tied to these for a big pot.
I was a bit torn on the river as I sort of knew this logic would mean he'd improved/board got less scary, but at the same time would be too weak to just give up.
So I did bet the river and lost more money. But thanks to the three of you for the posts explaining why I mis-played, hopefully good knowledge for future spots.
FWIW oppo had T8s