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GG TJ Cloutier?

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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited January 2010
    Bling!

    ok you bid 1st and il follow
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  • JONONZIEJONONZIE
    edited January 2010


    If you havent won it you may just as well buy a replica

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  • lJAMESllJAMESl
    edited January 2010
    I'm more interested in the fact hes selling it, does this mean hes busto?
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  • lJAMESllJAMESl
    edited January 2010
    Just incase you didn't know who this legend is...

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  • lJAMESllJAMESl
    edited January 2010
    Pretty sure he's well known for being addicted to casino house games like Craps too!
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited January 2010
    I remember Nick Wealthall talking on the other channel about how a Poker Organisation should start some sort of pension scheme to look after elderly and former players, and he added he first came up with the idea as he was worried about TJ.

    He's a great player and gentleman but he's never held onto any money for long.  I checked out the other bracelet (it's from the Scotty Nugyen Poker Challenge?!?!?).  If you thought Scotty had bad taste in shirts, check that bling out baby!

    TJ clearly got some money for them and hopefully there will always be folks like Sexton and Tomko to look after him and keep him in action (although they should put a tag on him to set of an alarm if he's within five yards of a dice).
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  • TommyDTommyD
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
    I'm more interested in the fact hes selling it, does this mean hes busto?
    Posted by lJAMESl
    Maybe he's Isildur1?  Now that would smack my gob....
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  • lJAMESllJAMESl
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier? : Maybe he's Isildur1?  Now that would smack my gob....
    Posted by TommyD
    Haha that would be awesome!
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  • LadyFingrsLadyFingrs
    edited January 2010
    Kind of feel sorry for him but he's obv one of the many that owned poker when it was easy and has now fizzled out.
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  • barnsiebarnsie
    edited January 2010
    ladyfingrs

    this is nothing to do with him not being able to beat the game these days, trust me he can do that

    saw him win rather a lot when in vegas last year and blow it all and 4 times more on the craps  table

    trust me he can still play
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  • Ms_ChipsMs_Chips
    edited January 2010
    Maybe he should Google 'Bankroll Management'. Ok j/k

    This is the sad demise of a legend.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
    Maybe he should Google 'Bankroll Management'. Ok j/k This is the sad demise of a legend.
    Posted by Ms_Chips
    MMM, Ms Chips!

    I'm afraid Mr TJ is not the first, nor will he be the last, WSOP Bangle Winner to go seriously Busto. I know three, personally.

    Half of the "faces" are busto, at a rough guess.
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  • Ms_ChipsMs_Chips
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier? : MMM, Ms Chips! I'm afraid Mr TJ is not the first, nor will he be the last, WSOP Bangle Winner to go seriously Busto. I know three, personally. Half of the "faces" are busto, at a rough guess.
    Posted by Tikay10
    That really puts things into perspective and a serious warning to all. Sounds like it isn't always sunrays and saturdays as a poker professional.

    Very sad

    At least we still have you Mr. K
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  • loonytoonsloonytoons
    edited January 2010
    They should make the bracelets like the oscars, in respect that they dont belong to the actors they belong to the motion pictures guild and not the winner - they are only the winners on permanent loan so to speak, and are like sporting trophies and never actually belong to you, that way they could not be sold, if the WSOP did this
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  • Grimstar30Grimstar30
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier? : That really puts things into perspective and a serious warning to all. Sounds like it isn't always sunrays and saturdays as a poker professional. Very sad At least we still have you Mr. K
    Posted by Ms_Chips
    Mr.K very successful in business away from the tables prior to taking up this love of ours :)
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  • LadyFingrsLadyFingrs
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
    ladyfingrs this is nothing to do with him not being able to beat the game these days, trust me he can do that saw him win rather a lot when in vegas last year and blow it all and 4 times more on the craps  table trust me he can still play
    Posted by barnsie
    Oh so you an TJ are pretty tight knit (cwidt?) are you?

    So what you seen him have a winning session @ a cash table or FT a donkament and that means he's a winning player?
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier? : Oh so you an TJ are pretty tight knit (cwidt?) are you? So what you seen him have a winning session @ a cash table or FT a donkament and that means he's a winning player?
    Posted by LadyFingrs
    beware of your soul mr barnsie,

    he's a crusher lol !
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  • barnsiebarnsie
    edited January 2010
    i have never spoken to him

    his poker record tells you he is/was a fine player how you can even dispute that is laughable tbh

    his craps and casino addictions are a seperate and not uncommon very expensive sideline


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  • LadyFingrsLadyFingrs
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
    i have never spoken to him his poker record tells you he is/was a fine player how you can even dispute that is laughable tbh his craps and casino addictions are a seperate and not uncommon very expensive sideline
    Posted by barnsie
    I'm not disputing he's + money in poker overall.

    But I doubt he is now a winning player.
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  • Seagull158Seagull158
    edited January 2010
    Here are his tournament winnings. He was still doing OK till 2007.
    World Europe The Americas Rest of the World
    Total $ 9,787,199 $ 44,169 $ 9,443,030 $ 300,000
    2009 $ 8,421 - $ 8,421 -
    2008 $ 78,015 - $ 78,015 -
    2007 $ 542,233 $ 13,172 $ 529,061 -
    2006 $ 588,473 - $ 588,473 -
    2005 $ 1,169,160 - $ 869,160 $ 300,000
    2004 $ 572,420 - $ 572,420 -
    2003 $ 567,279 - $ 567,279 -
    2002 $ 336,168 - $ 336,168 -
    2001 $ 409,925 - $ 409,925 -
    2000 $ 1,027,462 $ 30,997 $ 996,465 -
    1999 $ 182,513 - $ 182,513 -
    1998 $ 801,820 - $ 801,820 -
    1997 $ 210,099 - $ 210,099 -
    1996 $ 169,281 - $ 169,281 -
    1995 $ 232,327 - $ 232,327 -
    1994 $ 661,380 - $ 661,380 -
    1993 $ 131,013 - $ 131,013 -
    1992 $ 294,272 - $ 294,272 -
    1991 $ 334,752 - $ 334,752 -
    1990 $ 657,923 - $ 657,923 -
    1989 $ 77,415 - $ 77,415 -
    1988 $ 76,385 - $ 76,385 -
    1987 $ 169,785 - $ 169,785 -
    1986 $ 112,298 - $ 112,298 -
    1985 $ 290,000 - $ 290,000 -
    1984 $ 3,280 - $ 3,280 -
    1983 $ 83,100 - $ 83,100 -
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  • lJAMESllJAMESl
    edited January 2010
    $9.7M now that is impressive! Maybe even more impressive to able to blow that sort of cash on house games!
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  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER
    edited January 2010
     2009  8k profit

    2008  78k profit 

    seems this is where he didn't make enough to sustain his house game habit !
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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited January 2010
    In Response to Re: GG TJ Cloutier?:
     2009  8k profit 2008  78k profit  seems this is where he didn't make enough to sustain his house game habit !
    Posted by IRISHROVER
    Unfortunately Rover, Online Databases of Live "Winnings" are constructed in a very peculiar way.

    They take NO account of "losses" - they are simply a total of the Cashes the player has. So, a Player could spend $1,000,000 in Entry Fees in a year, earn gross cashes of $20,000, & his Online Database would say he had "won" $20,000, which is obviously a nonsense, as in fact, he'd have lost $980,000. But that's how they do it. The Databases also only record Live Tournament Cashes, & do not include Live (B & M) Cash-Game wins or losses.

    TJ has barely played Live Tournament Poker in the last few years. It's a widely held view, & one to which I subscruibe, that he remains an outstanding player, but I'm afraid his "leaks" have been the undoing of him, as with so many other fine poker players. 
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  • barnsiebarnsie
    edited January 2010
    sorry but if t j cloutier still isnt a winning poker player then i give up the game
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  • LadyFingrsLadyFingrs
    edited February 2010
    [x] winnings
    [  ] profit
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  • barnsiebarnsie
    edited February 2010
    yes that has been covered already

    the man probably owes large sums to all of his fellow players from that era and do they care? i doubt it


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