yes i am back, but for how long?

webby234

hey guys thats right i am back finally after my 2 weeks sabbatical lol, and seen a few nice posts wishing me good luck and wanting me back then seen a few from others that want me gone!! well they may get their wish very shortly, i love the forum here at sky poker but i'm not gonna change who i am so that i dont get told off by sky_rich. i'm not an hard person to get along with, infact i get along with all walks of life but just seems on here some people struggle to take a joke and read way too much into peoples post than they really need to, i dont intend to offend anyone, most of my posts are made tongue in cheek, maybe some smilies would make it more easier on here? anyhow the point i am trying to make is i wont be treated like a kid or singled out just so i can survive here on sky poker, i will continue to be myself and hopefully have a great time and from time to time have a argument with people but thats not a bad thing, it keeps things fresh and real, people should be allowed to voice their opinions! i have been warned that my next ban will be permanent so future not looking good for me on here but lets be honest the whole forum at some time or another is gonna be banned, rules are too strict for my liking and dont like seeing my friends on here treated like kids, lets try treat each other as we expect to be treated..............ADULTS!!!

Mr_Miyagi

Hey welcome back webby.

I heard a lot about you but was starting to think you were just a myth.

webby234

thankyou mr Miyagi, just a myth lol

unknown_username

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Hey welcome back webby. I heard a lot about you but was starting to think you were just a myth.
Posted by Mr_Miyagi

He's not a myth .... definitely a mythster. Hope that's uthful to you.

ps. Welcome back Webby.

Mr_Miyagi

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In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long? : He's not a myth .... definitely a mythster. Hope that's uthful to you. ps. Welcome back Webby.
Posted by elsadog

What is the matter with you? Cat got your tongue?

webby234

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In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long? : He's not a myth .... definitely a mythster. Hope that's uthful to you. ps. Welcome back Webby.
Posted by elsadog

thanks elsa, good to be back i must say

ACESOVER8s

Nice to see you back Webby - I'm wondering if SKYBET will put odds up or a sweep stake maybe on the amount of time your back here for lol

For what it's worth i think the forum could do with relaxing the rules slightly, Lets face it this is a poker site and thats reserved for 18 and overs only so a bit of livley debate and language should be nothing that anyone hasn't seen before.

I agree that out & out abuse and therefore very specific swear words etc should be banned as i don't think anyone should be bullied or abused in any walk of life but the some of the words that banned on the filter is just daft.

there's a guy on here with a very CHOICE name but i can't put H E L L into the text box cos it throws it out???? Whats that about!

Anyway back to topic..... Nice to see you back mate!

philmenow

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hey guys thats right i am back finally after my 2 weeks sabbatical lol, and seen a few nice posts wishing me good luck and wanting me back then seen a few from others that want me gone!! well they may get their wish very shortly, i love the forum here at sky poker but i'm not gonna change who i am so that i dont get told off by sky_rich. i'm not an hard person to get along with, infact i get along with all walks of life but just seems on here some people struggle to take a joke and read way too much into peoples post than they really need to, i dont intend to offend anyone, most of my posts are made tongue in cheek, maybe some smilies would make it more easier on here? anyhow the point i am trying to make is i wont be treated like a kid or singled out just so i can survive here on sky poker, i will continue to be myself and hopefully have a great time and from time to time have a argument with people but thats not a bad thing, it keeps things fresh and real, people should be allowed to voice their opinions! i have been warned that my next ban will be permanent so future not looking good for me on here but lets be honest the whole forum at some time or another is gonna be banned, rules are too strict for my liking and dont like seeing my friends on here treated like kids, lets try treat each other as we expect to be treated..............ADULTS!!!
Posted by webby234

Right on fella,any1 who's gone down the pub and got into a heated discussion about 'anything' hears exactly where ur coming from(and they can end up alot worse than abit of name calling).But online u cant even put the caps lock on without getting a slap on the wrist,or a 'ban for life' threat.On the whole here its a bit of friendly banter,the odd wind up,differences of opinions,pretty much the same as the real world,so WHY is it that its not allowed 2 run its course,are 'they' fearful sum1s gonna drive the length of the country 2 'sawt sum1 out' coz they got called a donkey.lol.fs.Will be a sad day when ur not allowed 2 argue about footy in the pub with ur m8s.welcome back...

Sky_Rich

guys, what you have to remember is that we have strict guidelines that are put in place by Sky (keeping with the Sky brand values).

other forums/ communities may allow slightly more colourful behaviour/ language but that isn't what we are trying to achieve here.

we work hard and want to keep this a friendly, welcoming place that everyone can feel part of and i feel encouraging positive interaction is a great way to do this.

of course we're open to feedback and i always love to hear what you guys have to say but hopefully you can all understand our stance on this.

philmenow

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guys, what you have to remember is that we have strict guidelines that are put in by Sky (keeping with the Sky brand values). other forums/ communities may allow slightly more colourful behaviour/ language but that isn't what we are trying to achieve here. we work hard and want to keep this a friendly, welcoming place that everyone can feel part of and i feel encouraging positive interaction is a great way to do this. of course we're open to feedback and i always love to hear what you guys have to say but hopefully you can all understand our stance on this.
Posted by Sky_Rich

cant imagine any1s blaming yourself or any other sky mods(job to do etc)..but i think u'll agree that on the whole its just a bit of chatter....abit of name-calling never hurt no1...death threats by PM is a different matter,but dont ever imagine that will happen...guess its part of this ever evolving 'nanny state' we live in.

ACESOVER8s

In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long?:

guys, what you have to remember is that we have strict guidelines that are put in by Sky (keeping with the Sky brand values). other forums/ communities may allow slightly more colourful behaviour/ language but that isn't what we are trying to achieve here. we work hard and want to keep this a friendly, welcoming place that everyone can feel part of and i feel encouraging positive interaction is a great way to do this. of course we're open to feedback and i always love to hear what you guys have to say but hopefully you can all understand our stance on this.
Posted by Sky_Rich

Understood Rich and don't take my comments the wrong way, i don't want free reign to go around insulting and abusing at will, it just seems that for an over 18's site the rules are very very stringent so much that words like H E L L are deemed too offensive for the text filter to print.

Now in context this is a perfectly acceptable word, and even out of context i think it's hard to be deemed as offensive to adults (unless of course you were subjected to some sort of strict Amish upbringing)

I'm all for moderation and respect for others but when things are just TOOOOOOO clean & nice then there is a danger that debates turn into sterile agreement threads where everybody is very nice and nobody dare vere from the accepted opinon

I like the forum that's why i post on it, but sometimes the things that people take offence to bewilder me

MereNovice

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In Response to yes i am back, but for how long? : Right on fella,any1 who's gone down the pub and got into a heated discussion about 'anything' hears exactly where ur coming from(and they can end up alot worse than abit of name calling).But online u cant even put the caps lock on without getting a slap on the wrist,or a 'ban for life' threat.On the whole here its a bit of friendly banter,the odd wind up,differences of opinions,pretty much the same as the real world,so WHY is it that its not allowed 2 run its course,are 'they' fearful sum1s gonna drive the length of the country 2 'sawt sum1 out' coz they got called a donkey.lol.fs.Will be a sad day when ur not allowed 2 argue about footy in the pub with ur m8s.welcome back...
Posted by philmenow

There is a world of difference between what is acceptable when said, in "the heat of the moment" in the pub after a few drinks and what is written in a public forum.

Things said in the pub are transitory and generally private; things that are written on this forum endure and are public.

We all have a chance to consider our thoughts before posting on this forum. We should be more careful before writing things that are designed to be hurtful or provocative. It takes just a moment to write something that will have an impact for many years.

acebarry10

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guys, what you have to remember is that we have strict guidelines that are put in by Sky (keeping with the Sky brand values). other forums/ communities may allow slightly more colourful behaviour/ language but that isn't what we are trying to achieve here. we work hard and want to keep this a friendly, welcoming place that everyone can feel part of and i feel encouraging positive interaction is a great way to do this. of course we're open to feedback and i always love to hear what you guys have to say but hopefully you can all understand our stance on this.
Posted by Sky_Rich

Er language?, sigh, ban please mods , welcome back webby

Sky_Rich

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when things are just TOOOOOOO clean & nice then there is a danger that debates turn into sterile agreement threads where everybody is very nice and nobody dare vere from the accepted opinon
Posted by ACESOVER8s

i'm sure you'll agree this isn't the case in this community!

unknown_username

Hi Webby.
Welcome Back Mate!

Don't think my "Bring Back Webby - Petition" in the forum got you back any quicker, but it was supported very well mate. Can't say I didnt try, anyway, best of luck mate.

Regards
Pokertrev (The Suite) 

Ms_Chips

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guys, what you have to remember is that we have strict guidelines that are put in by Sky (keeping with the Sky brand values).Posted by Sky_Rich

Does that mean we can dropkick spectators though. J/k CSYTAL CLEAR MR. RICH.

ACESOVER8s

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In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long? : There is a world of difference between what is acceptable when said, in "the heat of the moment" in the pub after a few drinks and what is written in a public forum. Things said in the pub are transitory and generally private; things that are written on this forum endure and are public. We all have a chance to consider our thoughts before posting on this forum. We should be more careful before writing things that are designed to be hurtful or provocative. It takes just a moment to write something that will have an impact for many years.
Posted by MereNovice

Agreed Vince but i like to exercise respect rather than have it enforced (i guess not all are capable but nanny states in general really get my goat).
 
A slightly less tightened grip on language and what is considered appropriate comment is not a call to people to post abusive comments, i have no need to write a 200 word torrent of swear words but some of the banned words as expressed above just make me laugh. But i can understand SKY Rich saying the rules are designed within SKYs brand values so there will be no change

philmenow

In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long?:

In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long? : There is a world of difference between what is acceptable when said, in "the heat of the moment" in the pub after a few drinks and what is written in a public forum. Things said in the pub are transitory and generally private; things that are written on this forum endure and are public. We all have a chance to consider our thoughts before posting on this forum. We should be more careful before writing things that are designed to be hurtful or provocative. It takes just a moment to write something that will have an impact for many years.
Posted by MereNovice

tell that to the family over there having a meal on a saturday afternoon in the local..there'll always be sum1, sumwhere who is 'deeply offended' by something ,that u or I wouldnt bat an eyelid at..and 2 have 2 think about everything and anything we write is beyond acceptable.i wear my cross and dont for 1 second ever think, ooo i might bump into sum1 who'll be 'deeply offended' by it,better not wear it...i mght have thought ur remark was having a 'pop' at my remark,and i might be 'deeply offended' by that...but being an adult i'll accept what u have 2 say..(bet hes havin a 'pop')

oynutter

Can we have a quick breakdown of "sky's brand values"?

MereNovice

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In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long? : tell that to the family over there having a meal on a saturday afternoon in the local..there'll always be sum1, sumwhere who is 'deeply offended' by something ,that u or I wouldnt bat an eyelid at..and 2 have 2 think about everything and anything we write is beyond acceptable.i wear my cross and dont for 1 second ever think, ooo i might bump into sum1 who'll be 'deeply offended' by it,better not wear it...i mght have thought ur remark was having a 'pop' at my remark,and i might be 'deeply offended' by that...but being an adult i'll accept what u have 2 say..(bet hes havin a 'pop')
Posted by philmenow

That appears to be an issue on which we differ.

I deem it crucial that we think about what we write; you deem it unacceptable.

MAXALLY

I love sky elf

Hope this helps this thread to keep things 'chilled'.

But I do agree with a few posters on here about this being an 'adult environment' and sometimes the strict rules enforced does quell some of the 'free' speech which should be allowed but maybe not accepted by everyone. A 'nanny' state sometimes takes things to an extreme which is not needed but implemented anyway. If in this day and age a person can be charged with assault on a burglar, then not being allowed to use everyday minor 'swear' words on a forum, is no more than we can expect.

I have said welcome back Mr Webby on that other thread but i will say it again just in case you missed it!

WELCOME BACK MR.WEBBY!

unknown_username

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guys, what you have to remember is that we have strict guidelines that are put in place by Sky (keeping with the Sky brand values). Posted by Sky_Rich

Surely if sky were to stick to "sky brand values" then some obscenities which are not allowed in the forum should also apply to its TV Programs and these would also have to be censored?

We are not allowed to say H e l l in the forum but sky are allowed to air much worse swear words in its programs, how can this be the same values?

I think some words could be used to directly insult and abuse people and this is just not acceptable, but come on guys get with it. Thats why tv programs have warnings "this program may contain strong language which some viewers may find offensive" Put a warning on the top of the page, its for over 18s, we all have a choice right?

Ps. "This Post May Contain Strong Language" but all insults have been edited by the mods.

Pps. How come sky members such as Tikay & Mr Orford can submit a post with a word such as "Hell" in it, but when other forum members reply to their post or submit their own post with this kind of word in it, we have to edit it out before it will submit. Is this the "Sky Brand Values" at work.

philmenow

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In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long? : That appears to be an issue on which we differ. I deem it crucial that we think about what we write; you deem it unacceptable.
Posted by MereNovice

i totally get what ur saying,but,no one has to read anything that is posted,the same way no one has to take the family out for lunch in a pub on a saturday afternoon.what offends or provokes me may not offend or provoke you.i think it is where you draw the line that matters.

philmenow

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In Response to Re: yes i am back, but for how long? : Surely if sky were to stick to "sky brand values" then some obscenities which are not allowed in the forum should also apply to its TV Programs and these would also have to be censored? We are not allowed to say H e l l  in the forum but sky are allowed to air much worse swear words in its programs, how can this be the same values? I think some words could be used to directly insult and abuse people and this is just not acceptable, but come on guys get with it. Thats why tv programs have warnings "this program may contain strong language which some viewers may find offensive" Put a warning on the top of the page, its for over 18s, we all have a choice right? Ps. "This Post May Contain Strong Language" but all insults have been edited by the mods. Pps. How come sky members such as Tikay & Mr Orford can submit a post with a word such as "Hell" in it, but when other forum members reply to their post or submit their own post with this kind of word in it, we have to edit it out before it will submit. Is this the "Sky Brand Values" at work.
Posted by POKERTREV

SKYs line has been drawn,but is a little wobbly

oynutter

YEH !!---BRING BACK H ELL !!

unknown_username

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YEH !!---BRING BACK H ELL !!
Posted by oynutter

Good game last night by the way Nutter, your one H ell of a player.

oynutter

THANKS TREV!--I love that deepie--always a great game--well played to you too, was hard luck running into A-K at that stage, carlybun is really coming up fast too! I was impressed with her/his game (not sure), I did play them aces good though, for a change--lol--- well done on a nice cash mate

BADBOY985

THIS THREAD IS RUBBISH YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN TO PUT IN A POLL SO WE CAN VOTE!

ALTHOUGH IF THE SNOW COMES BACK SKY RICH COULD PUT IT UP AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO GOALS GOALS GOALS.

SERIOUSLY M8 MISSED WHAT YOU GO BANNED FOR BUT WELCOME BACK, I ALWAYS FIND YOUR OPINIONS INTERESTING EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN BE A LITTLE LEFT FIELD.

BUT IMO THATS WHAT THE FORUMS ABOUT.


ps sky rich if you do run the comp can i have 6 minutes and 12 seconds or possibly some cash or tourny entry
you know like that fruitloop who thought of the 1 chip tourniment

oynutter

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THIS THREAD IS RUBBISH YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN TO PUT IN A POLL SO WE CAN VOTE! ALTHOUGH IF THE SNOW COMES BACK SKY RICH COULD PUT IT UP AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO GOALS GOALS GOALS. SERIOUSLY M8 MISSED WHAT YOU GO BANNED FOR BUT WELCOME BACK, I ALWAYS FIND YOUR OPINIONS INTERESTING EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN BE A LITTLE LEFT FIELD. BUT IMO THATS WHAT THE FORUMS ABOUT. ps sky rich if you do run the comp can i have 6 minutes and 12 seconds or possibly some cash or tourny entry you know like that fruitloop who thought of the 1 chip tourniment
Posted by BADBOY985

OYYY!!!!---That "friutloop" won 50 floppin quid mate!!---ner ner na ner ner!!!!!!!---lololololol-----now go to area 51 and vote to get rid of it---lol

IRISHROVER

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hey guys thats right i am back finally after my 2 weeks sabbatical lol, and seen a few nice posts wishing me good luck and wanting me back then seen a few from others that want me gone!! well they may get their wish very shortly, i love the forum here at sky poker but i'm not gonna change who i am so that i dont get told off by sky_rich. i'm not an hard person to get along with, infact i get along with all walks of life but just seems on here some people struggle to take a joke and read way too much into peoples post than they really need to, i dont intend to offend anyone, most of my posts are made tongue in cheek, maybe some smilies would make it more easier on here? anyhow the point i am trying to make is i wont be treated like a kid or singled out just so i can survive here on sky poker, i will continue to be myself and hopefully have a great time and from time to time have a argument with people but thats not a bad thing, it keeps things fresh and real, people should be allowed to voice their opinions! i have been warned that my next ban will be permanent so future not looking good for me on here but lets be honest the whole forum at some time or another is gonna be banned, rules are too strict for my liking and dont like seeing my friends on here treated like kids, lets try treat each other as we expect to be treated..............ADULTS!!!
Posted by webby234

welcome back m8y,

nice to have a outspoken poster back,

yep i agree with you on rules been to tight on forum,

i find over the last few weeks they are enforcing the rules more,

in my opinion,

while it keeps it cleaner,

it hampers the fun banter on here,

i noted a few post of late from one of the suits ,

moaning about the mannerism  of some posters,

i recall in one,

he told the mods this should not be tolerated,

so i think our great m8y skyrich is under pressure from his paymasters,

to clean this forum  up a bit ,

put like this post i have wrote,

we still have freedom of speech,
 
a bit lol.

over and out roboover

KnackersYa

To be fair to the mods, I noticed that the tightening up and arbitrary enforcement of the rules was happening over the Christmas/New Year period.

Maybe they had the Work Experience kids doing the moderating? ;o)