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You said you was going to follow the timed event on channel 4. When TK got knocked out you stopped following it totally. Not one single hand or any mention after that, unbeliveably you did not even give the result, I find it hard to belive that this happened it was disgraceful. I know I won so it will sound like sourer grapes, but here some good performances from other players too. We all know who actually wins is down to luck, but players like Bambus, TommyD, allagher< Cregster, Mikeycb etc did well but no mention. Obviously this can only come from someone who has done well, as those that have done poorly do not know as they are no longer in it. I want an explainaton please.
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Hi Gary,
I'm not sure how to answer that.
First up, congrats on your win. I was on your table briefly, & you were positively rampant.
There was not, or not as far as I am aware, ever any commitment to follow that Timed Tourney from pillar to post, though I perfectly understand why you, & perhaps others, would wish that to be the case. A 50 runner (approx.) £11 MTT is not, in truth, the sort of thing that will offer a good viewing experience to Sky Sports viewers.
It's purpose on the Show is simply to follow the Studio Guest or Analyst. Unfortunately for all, that was me last night, & to say it went badly would be understating the case. And yes, "in before", I can't imagine why anyone would want to sit & watch me play a NLH MTT, but that's the basis of the Show at present, following those in the studio.
I don't recall exactly what Anna said at the top of the Show, but I would have thought it would be something along the lines of "....and we will also be following tikay's progress in a Timed Tournament".
If you wish me to pass it up to the Producer for comment, let me know, & I'll do so, though I can't promise they will respond.
I do get your point, it would have been nice to at least mention the result, but the Producers need to have in mind the X0,000 Sky Sports viewers when deciding what to, or not to, show.
Anyway, that's not going to appease you, I fancy, but it's the best I can offer, & I'm certainly sorry to hear you were upset.
Congrats on the result.
i want to write something to make this better for sir-gary. so here's my effort...
you might know that sir-gary is even more of a tv tart than tommyd.
sir-gary is just miffed as this new tv opportunity passed by without anyone noticing.
however, there is a new reality tv series starting soon. it is either going to be called, "gary's got talent" or, "strictly sir-gary" or, "i'm sir-gary, get me on tv".
ps. has your tan from punta cana faded yet?
pps. mine has.
Congrats on the result Gary!
I found it very difficult, in truth. I was trying to play, & at the same time, do the Top of The Pots commentary, &, more importantly, nudge & prompt the guests with cues & questions - in my view, when we have guests, the idea is to use THEM to interact & comment as much as possible. They are less used to being in a studio though, so need little prompts, cues & questions, to encourage them to open out.
I'm sure other Analysts, or Mr Ambo, can cope, but I found it a bit of a nightmare to be honest, I simply could not do any of my little tasks in a satisfactory manner whilst trying to play that Times jobbie.
As it happens, I thought Daiva & Jamie were both excellent.
I was a bit surprised to arrive home & see Gary's Post. I know Gary, have met him several times, we get along fine & he is a good guy, so it was not an ideal way to end the day. The last thing I'd ever want to do is upset a good guy like Gary.
Anyway, here we are.
We do a little review of each show these days, internally, & we'll chat about it in the office today.
Essentially, Sky TV (the TV Company, not the poker company owned by SB&G) say "give us a Show which our viewers enjoy, & we will air it".
Or put another way, if it displeases Big Sky, & does not appeal to their viewer base, they simply won't take the Show.
They don't have any editorial input at all, don't make it, & for that matter, they don't pay for it, they get it provided free, as is the industry norm for TV Poker Shows. (TV companies never pay for poker shows).
It's quite a tricky balancing act pleasing all parties on this.
The old Channel 861 had a community feel-if you were doing well in the featured tournament, your play would be commented on. I do not necessarily agree with Sir Gary, but I do see why he feels that way. This has changed-now the emphasis is on the presenters, coupled with what looks like largely the same faces on the feature table time after time.
I am sure that many people prefer it this way-for me it does not currently work well. TK is an excellent link man, and usually selflessly allows others to shine. However, this disappeared while he was trying (or coerced) to also play in a tournament. I turned over last night as it was a bit embarrassing.
The other problem is that I regard myself as a reasonable MTT player who is a bit rubbish at cash-I am seeing some kindred spirits!
Just a suggestion for an occasional programme-have someone on who wins a tournament (the £110 Sunday?), show the key hands and have them comment upon them "one hand at a time".
I am sure that the right way forward is a mixture of cash, MTTs and live. Temporarily, there seems to be too much cash. However, that may just be for my taste, rather than what is objectively best.
2nd opinion is good players dont rant and should know better at 93 haha ..
hahaha i was actualy eating a bowl of cornflakes at the time and nearly spat my food out ..
i thought.. SIR-GARY.. 93..
i can imagine hes seen alot over the years and probably tell you some storys
but then again so could you sir haha
It's the people who, as Tikay put it, are poker curious. People who don't already play the game but might be somewhat familiar with it. Or people channel hopping, having never seen a hand of poker before, see it and might get drawn in by the entertainment.
Following a tournament just doesn't have the entertainment appeal for people not in the loop.
A veggie is getting a bit tired of salad, and to their mild horror they are thinking of going to the dark meaty side.
Sky Poker is a nice rump steak. They are looking for more people to sample their delicious meat. Mr 'Live Player who doesn't do online' just eats chicken every week. He is very content with chicken. He knows all about the steak available over at Sky but just has no interest in snubbing chicken for beef.
The veggie hears on the grapevine of a programme showcasing Sky's rump steak, where they try to show how tasty, fun and moreish steak is. The veggie is intrigued, and wants to dig a little deeper. Whereas Mr Chicken is perfectly happy with his other meat and has no interest in jumping ship.
Who should Sky market their show to?
If that ^ doesn't get me nominated for top of the posts, then its a sham.
Steak is Sky Poker.
Veggie is oblivious to both but potentially curious.
I know people who are 'chicken'. They just play live, and simply ain't interested in playing online, for whatever reason. So you could have the tastiest steak around, but it simply doesn't matter as they ain't having it, and no amount of seasoning will change their mind.
Veggie, who might want to sample meat, is the people you wanna go for. IMO of course.