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Sky Poker TV: LIVE - Tuesday 9th June
Join Richard Orford and Joe Stapleton on tonight's live show on Sky Sports 4 from 10pm to midnight!
Guests Daniel Charlton & David McConachie will be taking on the 100 Challenge live in the studio! Haven't heard of it? Get all the details here, maybe you'll appear on the box yourself?
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We'll have to settle for Richard instead. Rich, When is your 100 Challenge happening?
*That would be as dangerous as Anna and Carlo on the same show.
I'm starting to get the idea that you don't like the Tuesday shows Redarrow. They definitely aren't going to appeal to every single viewer, that feels like an impossible task. The recent figures of 40,000+ viewers means they are unlikely to rip it up and start again...at the end of the day both BskyB and Sky Poker want a show that is watched by as many people as possible and they are doing really well on that.
I'm sure that the team who work hard on the show are always thinking of ways to improve it though. What would you like to see in the two hour spot that is available on Sky Sports 4?
I take your point. I'm certain that Sky Sports 4 gets very many more viewers than 861 did and that it would if they showed five consecutive 0-0 draws from the late 80s.
The figures that they give to Sky Poker show level of engagement and average viewing time and stuff and I understand these are good though.
Personally I believe that it really is vital to think about what current viewers of that channel might want and give them that, rather than think what would we like to give them and what would we want them to like and give them that. Therefore the idea is to attempt to "sportify" poker and make it appeal to an existing audience.
In many threads about the TV channel I don't think we've managed to get over the initial problem though. The 861 shows were 5 hours long, they happened five and latterly three times a week and there were some restrictions on what was allowed and not allowed. The Tuesday shows are two hours, they have a very good number of viewers right now and there are even more restrictions on what is allowed and what isn't.
I've yet to be convinced that changing back to a "more 861 style" format is going to add more viewers than there currently are. It may lose a lot of new people that have been picked up recently.
What I am really confused about is how the people who seem to mostly just want the world to spin back a year and to get to watch 15 hours of 861 a week propose to make that happen in two hours on a different channel with different restrictions.
Is it really that different to 861? Most of the two hours still consists of poker hands that were played on the site being analysed and discussed by some people, many of whom are the same, sitting on the same sofa?
To the dozen or so people who have posted regularly to moan about the new show can I ask what you would change given the new constraints?
It's possible that many people just think that moaning every week means that Sky Poker will "cave in" and 861 will come back. I know the shows were much loved but I have to tell you that will not happen. Sky Betting and Gaming is a separate company to BSkyB and they do not own a TV channel or a licence to run one.
I would have said that having a two hour show on Sky Sports 4 at a reasonable hour that gets 40-50k viewers each week is a good job done by the Sky Poker TV people and a good thing for the site. I'm yet to be convinced that this is a bad thing.
Consider also that 861 would often get less than 1000 viewers. Even it it was possible to make 15 hours fit into 2 hours I'm not sure that would be a great idea.