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Pockets Jacks OOP / Blinds in Bounty Hunter. Thoughts please? Any help given appreciated cheers
| wolley | Fold | ||||
| KAEBESS | Fold | ||||
| beavis12 | Fold | ||||
| rodney147 | Call | 40.00 | 100.00 | 1755.00 | |
| mcglynn07 | Raise | 140.00 | 240.00 | 2660.00 | |
| luckme002 | Fold | ||||
| rodney147 | Call | 120.00 | 360.00 | 1635.00 | |
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| mcglynn07 | Check | ||||
| rodney147 | Check | ||||
| Turn | |||||
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| mcglynn07 | Bet | 180.00 | 540.00 | 2480.00 | |
| rodney147 | Raise | 400.00 | 940.00 | 1235.00 | |
| mcglynn07 | Call | 220.00 | 1160.00 | 2260.00 | |
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| mcglynn07 | Check | ||||
| rodney147 | All-in | 1235.00 | 2395.00 | 0.00 | |
| mcglynn07 | Call | 1235.00 | 3630.00 | 1025.00 | |
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| rodney147 | Show | ||||
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3 bet pre to define my range
check ace high flop
bet when second ace comes get check raised and call
flush river card, no straight, paired board get jammed on after what I thought was my value bet
any thoughts please
Thanks
Danny
Comments
As played, probably pass to the turn raise. Though if we call, we should probably call off almost all rivers. Not too fussed about the flush coming in due to how the hand has played out.
Could argue raising a tad more pre.
I did not see many aces in his range preflop that would call a raise pre and then not bet on the flop when I checked to him I think he would bet his flush draws on the flop and his sets due to flush draw and his two pair hand like a7 or a2. When he does not bet and ace comes on turn I feel like my hand is good. So I bet and now he raises me which at the time feels like a fold bet then I thought it is easy for you to rep that card but not betting it on the flop does not add up. I know you have something but it has not been good enough to raise me preflop or on the flop. He must be concerned that I could have an ace surely. My range looks more ace heavy than his. And then the flush completes a paired board on river. Again it seems like a hand he could represent and it would be for most of my stack. I hate a check here on river cos it seems like thin value. So I value bet and get shoved on. At first I think it's a fold It feels like a fold because he seems tight and I have a second best hand maybe. But the one deciding factor that made me call was my equity of top two versus a flush with what was in the middle and what it was to call I would be making a mistake to fold for the remaining part of my stack. He turned his hand into a bluff and showed two sixes. I breathed a sigh if relief but thinking back after certain actions clarified what he had. This is why this post is here to help with the thought process during the hand that narrows and cancels out ( possibly and maybe) parts of his range and lets me get to a sensible decision on the river. Thinking now the only hands that make any sense that could play this way are AA and a paint flush draw. The best bit about this is to get someone to put all their chips in when they are drawing dead. It was a good bluff though and his play was right.
Thanks
Danny
Danny
I did not see many aces in his range preflop that would call a raise pre and then not bet on the flop when I checked to him I think he would bet his flush draws on the flop and his sets due to flush draw and his two pair hand like a7 or a2. When he does not bet and ace comes on turn I feel like my hand is good. So I bet and now he raises me which at the time feels like a fold bet then I thought it is easy for you to rep that card but not betting it on the flop does not add up. I know you have something but it has not been good enough to raise me preflop or on the flop. He must be concerned that I could have an ace surely. My range looks more ace heavy than his. And then the flush completes a paired board on river. Again it seems like a hand he could represent and it would be for most of my stack. I hate a check here on river cos it seems like thin value. So I value bet and get shoved on. At first I think it's a fold It feels like a fold because he seems tight and I have a second best hand maybe. But the one deciding factor that made me call was my equity of top two versus a flush with what was in the middle and what it was to call I would be making a mistake to fold for the remaining part of my stack. He turned his hand into a bluff and showed two sixes. I breathed a sigh if relief but thinking back after certain actions clarified what he had. This is why this post is here to help with the thought process during the hand that narrows and cancels out ( possibly and maybe) parts of his range and lets me get to a sensible decision on the river. Thinking now the only hands that make any sense that could play this way are AA and a paint flush draw. The best bit about this is to get someone to put all their chips in when they are drawing dead. It was a good bluff though and his play was right.
Thanks
Danny
Danny
Thinking about it 77 and 22 and A2 and A7 are probably more in his range thinking about how he played the hand. Hit a set and check is deceptive and tight players would follow that line hoping I have an ace & on turn have trips. He has a house now with those four hands and raising it on the turn is a pretty good play. Bombing the river after I bet is again a house line but I think I went with it because I did not know him and the equity and initially I felt fear but after he showed aggression on turn and river I just thought those cards are very easy for you to rep big and get me to fold and jacks are the ideal hand for me to fold. His position on me also played a factor in me calling.
I'm trying to understand the grey area more when people bet with their chips to tell a story and can be convincing but just want a fold and bring out the hammer. You have to be able to do that to some extent to 2 barrel bluff it all off but I have seen this advice from a guy called Jamie Sykes were in the spot I explained where we raise pre check flop with ace high and then the board changed from ace high with a flush draw to river paired board w flush and my hand looks like what it could be. 2 Pair at best. The amount of backdoor aggression you can apply to someone in that spot and get a lot of folds is something worth looking into. I guess I would say the guy is a thinking player to be able to turn his hand into a bluff
like that and I think it's a good play whether it works or not.
Just being able to spot the signs were it does not feel real 100% is what is most important from this rather than the outcome of the hand.
Good luck
Danny
Just guessing, but if you ran this hand 100 times vs a random, they'll show up with either Ax or 77/22 maybe 80% of the time.
Limp call the button, check through the flop and then raise you on the turn.....
But I do like the call on the river after calling the turn raise. It's one thing to think 'I'm calling any river' and another thing to actually do it for what is a big %age of your stack.
agree with your thoughts on the range I am up against, do you think the check on the flop gives a clue to him not having sets with a flush draw present , he could be playing deceptive but that was one thing I thought up quickly in moment when I check the ace flop and he does not bet, If I were him I would want to be putting something in there if I had a set vs a blind who has raised pre and must call me for at least one street unless I have air?
Thanks for the reply. Thinking now 22 makes more sense than 77 like you said as 77 prob raise pre. I discounted any ace as would you jam any ace when flush hits river. You could vb and fold to my check raise shove but then I am only betting sets flushes and houses. The only time it felt scary and a fold was on the turn when check raised as those moves indicate strength a lot of the time. I think my hand is defined when I check the ace high flop after raising pre but bet when second one appears on turn. I got it wrong in post and checked river and feel even happier now. Good luck to you.