two turn decisions with two pair

offshoot

both villains are passive fish. Sure i can shove flop in first hand but i cant really see many negatives to flatting. The king on the turn is a pretty bad card obv.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
boylebag	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£100.00
DAVEYZZ	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£130.25
	Your hole cards	Q A
gerrard9	Fold
mickski	Raise		£3.00	£4.50	£68.96
offshoot	Call		£3.00	£7.50	£152.76
boylebag	Fold
DAVEYZZ	Call		£2.00	£9.50	£128.25
Flop
		Q A 7
DAVEYZZ	Check
mickski	Bet		£3.00	£12.50	£65.96
offshoot	Raise		£11.00	£23.50	£141.76
DAVEYZZ	Fold
mickski	Raise		£16.00	£39.50	£49.96
offshoot	Call		£8.00	£47.50	£133.76
Turn
		K
mickski	Bet		£12.00	£59.50	£37.96
offshoot?

 

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
CHEEZY67	Small blind		£0.50	£0.50	£90.03
addonis	Big blind		£1.00	£1.50	£159.63
	Your hole cards	K A
offshoot	Raise		£4.00	£5.50	£182.94
ajs4385	Fold
freechips1	Fold
CHEEZY67	Call		£3.50	£9.00	£86.53
addonis	Call		£3.00	£12.00	£156.63
Flop
		3 K Q
CHEEZY67	Check
addonis	Check
offshoot	Bet		£9.00	£21.00	£173.94
CHEEZY67	Fold
addonis	Call		£9.00	£30.00	£147.63
Turn
		A
addonis	Check
offshoot	Bet		£21.00	£51.00	£152.94
addonis	All-in		£147.63	£198.63	£0.00
offshoot

freechips1

having played these guys the 2nd one (ak) is a snap call, the first one (aq) why no reraise pre? and if i had flat called pre i am deffo not flatin on the flop like you did, the fact he only has 37.96 back after his 12 bet on turn i am puttin him all in a9-aj is a deffo a posible hand for him and no way will he fold, im prob way off

offshoot

didnt re raise AQ pre because he usually limps so figured if he 4bets i cant really call. The minraise on the flop i thought for sure was AK and kinda keeps in line with the kind of range i put him on. So i folded. Not sure if it was the right play as fish show up with complete random hands all the time. I folded the 2nd one aswell. im more confident that was right than the first hand.

LadyFingrs

3b pre 1st hand, shove turn
Call 2nd hand

BrownnDog

As played...First one: Raise; he probably isn't sophisticated enough to be making the 'donk lead trap bet', he's probably flushing or has weak ace. Second one: auto call.



Browndog

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Folding the first hand is very, very bad. You are assigning a range of >=AK to villain, which is one combo AA, 6 combos of AK, 3 combos of KK and 1 combo of QQ (This is assuming he isn't calling flop with JT!). So you are losing to 11 combinations of hands effectively, with someone who has donk bet twice on an Ace high, diamond flushing board? He is blocker betting a huge range of hands that you have crushed, thusly I find the 'raise all-in' button.

2nd hand vs villain is a fold, anyone who thinks otherwise is the reason he has money on the table!

offshoot

he isnt donk leading, he was the PFR

zing

1st one as played shove turn always, you beat way too many combos unless you got a soul read. 

What I don't get is if you put him on AK why don't you shove the flop because they're never folding there and flushes slow down passive fish massively if it comes on turn.

Very strangely(badly) played.

2nd hand is really villain dependant, most passive fish will only ever raise there with j10 or maybe 33 and just shove it cause they don't wana see a diamond river. I probably fold cause assess what shoves for 150BBs there that you beat, also I just noticed you have A of diamonds so they can't even spew with a pair/s+NFD. Pretty sure you only beat an unlikely AQ. I'd say good fold given amount of time you get given on sky to react.

offshoot

yeah in this spot again i would prob shove flop

beaneh

Call call hand one and sigh fold hand two unless he really is very bad.