TD VIGIN-ADVICE PLEASE

GILLS69

                        HI,
                             This weekend im running a £25,deep stack with 3/4 tables of 9-freeze out in my mates pub.
                                                                                                                                                                 Its a family orientaded pub and we start at 2p.m.
                                                     I will remind the players that strong language,personal verbal attack and any  bad table etiquette will be sanctioned.Obviousl,y there are extreme rare exeptions but I doubt any of these players would warrant immediate ejections.(they re ok bunch)
                                                                    Over-swearing(I reckon) a warning
                                                                     repeaqt offender?orbit or amount of time sanction?what would you do?
                                                                                                         Ive got a decent grip of the game so is there any sites I can  refer to,regarding TD, so I don't get it pear-shaped? Ta.
                                                                           Jim   
                                                                    
 

Darkangel7

isn't there something about pubs only having low stake games?

BARBIE59

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isn't there something about pubs only having low stake games?
Posted by Darkangel7

Yes pub can only pay out £100 a night/day on any game soical clubs with right licence coulud do £250

alex1229

Sounds like you're hosting this in a fight club

Tikay10

Hi Jim,

Common sense allied with feel & touch are the best way forward, but if you want the backing of "Official Rules" so to speak, the TDA Rules are what most Live poker games are - or should - be based upon.
 
No two players agree on all rules, and it's the same with Cardrooms, they all have local differences to their rules.
 
However, if you say "we go by TDA Rules" you wont go far wrong. People will still argue of course, it's how society is these days, we don't respect authority as much as we should, but you have to have a base reference point.

You can find the TDA rules HERE

Good luck, & let us know how it goes.   

Tikay10

Also, if you want a "Tournament Clock" there are numerous sites which offer them free, you simply load it up, dial in the clock, & have your laptop open, so everyone can see the screen.

I won't link to them, as most of them are a bit commercially awkward to post here.

Just google "poker tournament clock free".

GILLS69

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Hi Jim, Common sense allied with feel & touch are the best way forward, but if you want the backing of "Official Rules" so to speak, the TDA Rules are what most Live poker games are - or should - be based upon.   No two players agree on all rules, and it's the same with Cardrooms, they all have local differences to their rules.   However, if you say "we go by TDA Rules" you wont go far wrong. People will still argue of course, it's how society is these days, we don't respect authority as much as we should, but you have to have a base reference point. You can find the TDA rules HERE Good luck, & let us know how it goes.   
Posted by Tikay10

         Hi Tony,
                    Thanks ror the info on TDA and the free clock.
                                                                                      Will let you know how it goes mate,
                                                                                                                                         Jim                                                                                                                                          

hhyftrftdr

In Response to TD VIGIN-ADVICE PLEASE:

                        HI,                              This weekend im running a £25,deep stack with 3/4 tables of 9-freeze out in my mates pub.                                                                                                                                                                  Its a family orientaded pub and we start at 2p.m.                                                      I will remind the players that strong language,personal verbal attack and any  bad table etiquette will be sanctioned.Obviousl,y there are extreme rare exeptions but I doubt any of these players would warrant immediate ejections.(they re ok bunch)                                                                     Over-swearing(I reckon) a warning                                                                      repeaqt offender?orbit or amount of time sanction?what would you do?                                                                                                          Ive got a decent grip of the game so is there any sites I can  refer to,regarding TD, so I don't get it pear-shaped? Ta.                                                                            Jim                                                                          
Posted by GILLS69

I'd be ****ing screwed with these rules

GILLS69

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In Response to TD VIGIN-ADVICE PLEASE : I'd be ****ing screwed with these rules
Posted by hhyftrftdr

that's your warning -any more and u get an orbit penalty! lol

hhyftrftdr

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In Response to Re: TD VIGIN-ADVICE PLEASE : that's your warning -any more and u get an orbit penalty! lol
Posted by GILLS69

You can't give a fellow Yorkie a one orbit penalty....use your discretion!

unknown_username

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In Response to Re: TD VIGIN-ADVICE PLEASE : You can't give a fellow Yorkie a one orbit penalty....use your discretion!
Posted by hhyftrftdr

Two Yorkies deserves 2 orbits imo

Sky_JP

Hi Gills,

First of all, well done for stepping up and taking this on. I'm sure it will be appreciated, although that may not be apparent on the day!

I think the most important thing is to remember it's a pub game. At least some of the players won't have played in a casino before, and personally I think it's best not to keep to TDA rules for this. For example, do you really want to pull people up for a string bet?

If you know a few people there who've played a few times, I'd have a quite word and ask them to try and keep the table in order (maybe even deal!).

Hope this helps.

JP. 

TommyD

All great advice so far here.  Common sense and speaking to players like they are players and not naughty children is definitely the way to go.

For a bit of fun here's a trial run spot for you to rule on.  This is a genuine spot which happened the last time I played live and had the floor called over.  I was not involved in the play but was sat at the table.


Player A opens, player B 3bets , Player C calls and player D goes all in.  A, B and C all have at least 2x the stack of D.  Player A says call and looks down at his chips (he's sat the other end of the table from B as well).  Player B says all in and player C folds.  At this point Player B turns over his cards and literally every player apart from Player A sees he has aces, Mr A is still looking down at his chips sorting out the correct change for the first all in.  Suddenly realising there is still action, Mr B turns his cards back over, at which point Mr A pops his head up and asks what the commotion is all about, gets told that Mr B turned his cards over but doesn't get told what they were.

While no one told Mr A what the hand was now Player C, who seemed to like a drink, is trying to shake Mr D's (the first all in) hand and is opening saying how unlucky he has been, repeatedly and loudly.  He never says the hand though.

The floor gets called with Mr A wanting to know if as Mr B turned his cards over once and everyone else saw it, does he get a right to see them before acting.  Mr B would like a penalty on Mr C for his behaviour and for seemingly giving away what he has.  Also everyone wants to know how to finish the action.

You're the TD, what do you do?

GILLS69

In Response to Re: TD VIGIN-ADVICE PLEASE:

All great advice so far here.  Common sense and speaking to players like they are players and not naughty children is definitely the way to go. For a bit of fun here's a trial run spot for you to rule on.  This is a genuine spot which happened the last time I played live and had the floor called over.  I was not involved in the play but was sat at the table. Player A opens, player B 3bets , Player C calls and player D goes all in.  A, B and C all have at least 2x the stack of D.  Player A says call and looks down at his chips (he's sat the other end of the table from B as well).  Player B says all in and player C folds.  At this point Player B turns over his cards and literally every player apart from Player A sees he has aces, Mr A is still looking down at his chips sorting out the correct change for the first all in.  Suddenly realising there is still action, Mr B turns his cards back over, at which point Mr A pops his head up and asks what the commotion is all about, gets told that Mr B turned his cards over but doesn't get told what they were. While no one told Mr A what the hand was now Player C, who seemed to like a drink, is trying to shake Mr D's (the first all in) hand and is opening saying how unlucky he has been, repeatedly and loudly.  He never says the hand though. The floor gets called with Mr A wanting to know if as Mr B turned his cards over once and everyone else saw it, does he get a right to see them before acting.  Mr B would like a penalty on Mr C for his behaviour and for seemingly giving away what he has.  Also everyone wants to know how to finish the action. You're the TD, what do you do?


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                                                                                           wPosted by TommyD

                                                                                      Hi Tommy,
                                                                                                      thanks for the post and scenario poser.
                                                                                                                                                              As the player showed his cards prematurely and one live player saw them then I would insist the other live player sees them too.By turning his cards they stay turned-regardless of position,pot or stacks.As for any action against the shower
-I would warn him/her that any repertition would get an orbit sit-out.
                                                                                                   Hope I did the right thing,
                                                                                                                                       Run well my friend,
                                                                                                                                                                  Jim

hhyftrftdr

Haha thank you but I'm not about this weekend. Maybe if you run it again in the future....

Ps I wouldn't put your number on the forum!

GILLS69

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Hi Gills, First of all, well done for stepping up and taking this on. I'm sure it will be appreciated, although that may not be apparent on the day! I think the most important thing is to remember it's a pub game. At least some of the players won't have played in a casino before, and personally I think it's best not to keep to TDA rules for this. For example, do you really want to pull people up for a string bet? If you know a few people there who've played a few times, I'd have a quite word and ask them to try and keep the table in order (maybe even deal!). Hope this helps. JP. 
Posted by Sky_JP

Hi JP,
       Ta for the wise words m8,will use your advice and let u know how it went.
                                                                                                                 Jim
                                                                                             

Tikay10

Jim,

I arranged to have your Post removed - the one that included your phone number. Don't think they can edit it - just remove it.  

It's not advisable to publish your private telephone number on a forum, you'll get all sorts ringing you. 

Use the PM service to let people now your number.


Hi Mate,
                                       If you want a seat-ring me on xxxxxxxxxxxx
                                                                                                      As we're neighbours its there if you want it.

GILLS69

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Jim, I arranged to have your Post removed - the one that included your phone number. Don't think they can edit it - just remove it.   It's not advisable to publish your private telephone number on a forum, you'll get all sorts ringing you.  Use the PM service to let people now your number. Hi Mate,                                        If you want a seat-ring me on xxxxxxxxxxxx                                                                                                       As we're neighbours its there if you want it.
Posted by Tikay10

                                                      

                                  Hi Tikay,

                                              I was a bit silly putting my tel no. up so thanks for taking it offThankfully had no cranks calling me and won't do it again.My girlfriend gave me a good rollocking for doing it so it will get me out of the dog-house too!

                  I owe you one,

                                    Jim

    

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