Am I a good player or not

cobbler78

Check out my stats on Sharksope Cobbler78, I mainly play £3 or £5 double your money tournaments with a few £2 OR £3 MTT tournaments. Im currently in profit, but my ROI is £0 as I have played so many games.

Would be good to get some feedback on what is generally regarded as a good, average, or poor player.

DOHHHHHHH

Ive never understood how u can be in profit overall but have a negative ROI??

Saw someone other day who was $5k in proft, over loads n loads of games, yet had a minus ROI?

DOHH

cobbler78

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Ive never understood how u can be in profit overall but have a negative ROI?? Saw someone other day who was $5k in proft, over loads n loads of games, yet had a minus ROI? DOHH
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I dont understand this either, maybe is the rake that affects that. Im not negative ROI by the way, im only up about $70 but its from around 250 games I think. I only started with about $50 and have never had to re-load so I suppose thats a good thing.

OMahonyO

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Ive never understood how u can be in profit overall but have a negative ROI?? Saw someone other day who was $5k in proft, over loads n loads of games, yet had a minus ROI? DOHH
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

nor me, there is a q and a section somewhere on there though that i think explains it

philmenow

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Check out my stats on Sharksope Cobbler78, I mainly play £3 or £5 double your money tournaments with a few £2 OR £3 MTT tournaments. Im currently in profit, but my ROI is £0 as I have played so many games. Would be good to get some feedback on what is generally regarded as a good, average, or poor player.
Posted by cobbler78

cobbler78	462	$0	$4	5%	$82	-	59	Sky Poker		x
philmenow	635	$0	$3	9%	-$126	-	58	Sky Poker

u have a 5% ROI ...

cobbler78

Sorry, my ROI is not 0%, its 5% but my average profit is showing as 0, im guessing its as im only $82 up on 462 games, so less than $1 per game. Any my questions stands. How do these stats look, good, bad, average, poor??

Username	Games Played	Av. Profit	Av. Stake	Av. ROI	Total Profit	Form	Ability /100	Network	Filter
cobbler78	462	$0	$4	5%	$82	-	59	Sky Poker		x

cobbler78

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In Response to Am I a good player or not : cobbler78           462 $0   $4   5% $82   - 59 Sky Poker   x philmenow           635 $0   $3   9% -$126   - 58 Sky Poker u have a 5% ROI ...
Posted by philmenow

How is your ROI 9% and mine 5% when your down $126 and im up $82...seems a bit odd?

MereNovice

The following statement in the Q&A explains why the ROI% looks odd.

"It should be noted that this figure is the average of the ROIs which is different from total ROI which is the ROI of the averages."

This means that if you play one big buy-in tournament and win it and then several small buy-in tournaments and lose them all that your ROI% will be negative and your profit could be positive (and vice versa).
To my mind, this makes the ROI% quite a misleading statistic. It really only reflects how often you cash not how much cash you win.

unknown_username

Meres take is correct.

The important factor in your stats is that the $3 (£2) stake is your most profitable. Your ventures into higher stakes decimate your overall ROI. Stick to the $3 (£2) stakes and it will improve.

BlackFish3

play more games... your too inconsistent atm to be judged. Post back when you have played about 800.

cobbler78

I do seem to be very up and down, I can win 6 or 7 double your moneys on the spin, then another day lose 8 out of 10. I do tend to win I would say around 2/3rd of the double your money games I play in, so I think that is where im strongest. We will see.

I have found that in the lower states games (£2 etc), people are calling some pot sized bets with odd hands just to try and hit on the turn or river. They are not getting the odds to do this but it can be frustrating. I find at the £5 level less people call with these type of hands and there are less bad beats because of this.

BlackFish3

cobbler just play £3.30 dyms and see how you get on... £2.25 the rake is worse but the play is the same as £3.30... at £5.50 the play is better so i think the most profitable are the £3.30... just see how you get on, how about record 100 games at £3.30 and then work out the % you have won, if after a 100 games its over 60% then congrats your doing fine.

philmenow

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In Response to Re: Am I a good player or not : How is your ROI 9% and mine 5% when your down $126 and im up $82...seems a bit odd?
Posted by cobbler78

lol,it was at about 30% not so long ago,and i was still losing.but as has already been said above,its relative to the levels you win or lose at...

philmenow

variance sucks

www.sharkscope.com/SharkScope/DisplayGraph?GraphType=UserHistory&u1=wiKKaD&Network=pkr&Username=sswebsite&Password=&Currency=USD&TimeZone=8&ClientTimeZoneValue=UTC&searchTag=184.63861369117427&GraphWidth=540&GraphHeight=420&nocache=1264688488221&version=325&DecimalSeparator=." alt="" width="540" height="420" />

BlackFish3

thats not variance... thats 2 lucky tourny wins.

philmenow

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variance sucks   www.sharkscope.com/SharkScope/DisplayGraph?GraphType=UserHistory&u1=wiKKaD&Network=pkr&Username=sswebsite&Password=&Currency=USD&TimeZone=8&ClientTimeZoneValue=UTC&searchTag=184.63861369117427&GraphWidth=540&GraphHeight=420&nocache=1264688488221&version=325&DecimalSeparator= ." alt="" width="540" height="420" />
Posted by philmenow

another site,PKR

BlackFish3

worst site ever... runs so slow for me and you have to remember your cards lol.

philmenow

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thats not variance... thats 2 lucky tourny wins.
Posted by BlackFish3

define lucky??

BlackFish3

Lucky: occuring by chance

philmenow

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worst site ever... runs so slow for me and you have to remember your cards lol.
Posted by BlackFish3

it is a drain on memory(pc),but goto options and check the 'dont need to remember my cards' box

BlackFish3

but i would want to remember my cards :S

philmenow

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Lucky: occuring by chance
Posted by BlackFish3

so ur lukky 2 have woken up this morning..?

philmenow

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but i would want to remember my cards :S
Posted by BlackFish3

paper,pen,if u cant find the check box..

BlackFish3

thats long m8... so much effort lol. And yes i was lucky to wake up this morning because if i woke up any later i would of missed my lectures!!

BlackFish3

and what is this?? speed posting lol

donkeyplop

blackfish i checked out your sharkscope and u are SUPER HOT!

HAHAHA good work fella!

BlackFish3

15 dym cashes in a row does that for ya donkeyplop haha had to drop that in...

donkeyplop

i just checked my sharkscope and my longest winning run is 16!

you have an impressive profit now!! good work

IRISHROVER

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15 dym cashes in a row does that for ya donkeyplop haha had to drop that in...
Posted by BlackFish3

wow  good on you m8y !

philmenow

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15 dym cashes in a row does that for ya donkeyplop haha had to drop that in...
Posted by BlackFish3

i had a run of 22 cashes over at that ,slow ,lukky site

BlackFish3

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i just checked my sharkscope and my longest winning run is 16! you have an impressive profit now!! good work
Posted by donkeyplop

errrm ive always had an impressive profit... haha just joking thanks my longest before this streak was 10... but ive converted to cash mainly now.