Am I a good player or not

cobbler78 · January 2010

Check out my stats on Sharksope Cobbler78, I mainly play £3 or £5 double your money tournaments with a few £2 OR £3 MTT tournaments. Im currently in profit, but my ROI is £0 as I have played so many games.

Would be good to get some feedback on what is generally regarded as a good, average, or poor player.

DOHHHHHHH · January 2010

Ive never understood how u can be in profit overall but have a negative ROI??

Saw someone other day who was $5k in proft, over loads n loads of games, yet had a minus ROI?

DOHH

cobbler78 · January 2010

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Ive never understood how u can be in profit overall but have a negative ROI?? Saw someone other day who was $5k in proft, over loads n loads of games, yet had a minus ROI? DOHH
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

I dont understand this either, maybe is the rake that affects that. Im not negative ROI by the way, im only up about $70 but its from around 250 games I think. I only started with about $50 and have never had to re-load so I suppose thats a good thing.

OMahonyO · January 2010

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Ive never understood how u can be in profit overall but have a negative ROI?? Saw someone other day who was $5k in proft, over loads n loads of games, yet had a minus ROI? DOHH
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

nor me, there is a q and a section somewhere on there though that i think explains it

philmenow · January 2010

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Check out my stats on Sharksope Cobbler78, I mainly play £3 or £5 double your money tournaments with a few £2 OR £3 MTT tournaments. Im currently in profit, but my ROI is £0 as I have played so many games. Would be good to get some feedback on what is generally regarded as a good, average, or poor player.
Posted by cobbler78

cobbler78	462	$0	$4	5%	$82	-	59	Sky Poker		x
philmenow	635	$0	$3	9%	-$126	-	58	Sky Poker

u have a 5% ROI ...

cobbler78 · January 2010

Sorry, my ROI is not 0%, its 5% but my average profit is showing as 0, im guessing its as im only $82 up on 462 games, so less than $1 per game. Any my questions stands. How do these stats look, good, bad, average, poor??

Username	Games Played	Av. Profit	Av. Stake	Av. ROI	Total Profit	Form	Ability /100	Network	Filter
cobbler78	462	$0	$4	5%	$82	-	59	Sky Poker		x

cobbler78 · January 2010

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In Response to Am I a good player or not : cobbler78 462 $0 $4 5% $82 - 59 Sky Poker x philmenow 635 $0 $3 9% -$126 - 58 Sky Poker u have a 5% ROI ...
Posted by philmenow

How is your ROI 9% and mine 5% when your down $126 and im up $82...seems a bit odd?

MereNovice · January 2010

The following statement in the Q&A explains why the ROI% looks odd.

"It should be noted that this figure is the average of the ROIs which is different from total ROI which is the ROI of the averages."

This means that if you play one big buy-in tournament and win it and then several small buy-in tournaments and lose them all that your ROI% will be negative and your profit could be positive (and vice versa).
To my mind, this makes the ROI% quite a misleading statistic. It really only reflects how often you cash not how much cash you win.

unknown_username · January 2010

Meres take is correct.

The important factor in your stats is that the $3 (£2) stake is your most profitable. Your ventures into higher stakes decimate your overall ROI. Stick to the $3 (£2) stakes and it will improve.

BlackFish3 · January 2010

play more games... your too inconsistent atm to be judged. Post back when you have played about 800.

cobbler78 · January 2010

I do seem to be very up and down, I can win 6 or 7 double your moneys on the spin, then another day lose 8 out of 10. I do tend to win I would say around 2/3rd of the double your money games I play in, so I think that is where im strongest. We will see.

I have found that in the lower states games (£2 etc), people are calling some pot sized bets with odd hands just to try and hit on the turn or river. They are not getting the odds to do this but it can be frustrating. I find at the £5 level less people call with these type of hands and there are less bad beats because of this.

BlackFish3 · January 2010

cobbler just play £3.30 dyms and see how you get on... £2.25 the rake is worse but the play is the same as £3.30... at £5.50 the play is better so i think the most profitable are the £3.30... just see how you get on, how about record 100 games at £3.30 and then work out the % you have won, if after a 100 games its over 60% then congrats your doing fine.

philmenow · January 2010

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In Response to Re: Am I a good player or not : How is your ROI 9% and mine 5% when your down $126 and im up $82...seems a bit odd?
Posted by cobbler78

lol,it was at about 30% not so long ago,and i was still losing.but as has already been said above,its relative to the levels you win or lose at...

philmenow · January 2010

variance sucks

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BlackFish3 · January 2010

thats not variance... thats 2 lucky tourny wins.

philmenow · January 2010

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Posted by philmenow

another site,PKR