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Ed and mathematics
Does anyone else think that Ed overdoes the maths a little bit? He uses implied odds as a reason to call almost anything.
Implied odds are just that - implied. They may or may not materialise. All too often, when you hit your draw you don't make a single penny as the opponent won't pay you off. Particularly with flush draws which are often obvious. But every time you don't make it and draw against the immediate odds, you lose your cash.
Implied odds are just that - implied. They may or may not materialise. All too often, when you hit your draw you don't make a single penny as the opponent won't pay you off. Particularly with flush draws which are often obvious. But every time you don't make it and draw against the immediate odds, you lose your cash.
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Like last night, player went all in for 1200, pot now 2100
Ed said the player had the odds to call as he was getting over 2 and half to 1
He was adding the 1200 for the call into the total making it 3300
To me as the 1200 is not in the pot yet i wouldn`t be getting 2-1 on the 2100
Ahhhhhhh my brain hurts
Gary
At least hes enthusiastic about his maths, so much so that every time he launches into a calculation with voice rising as he goes the players names go out the window and he usually takes bits from each and mixes them lol. Respect Giddzo makes me laugh every time!
I enjoy listening to Ed's number crunching, not sure if he is right 100% of the time - maybe 83.33% of the time.
Bless him
I can't watch when he's on it infuriates me immensely!
I think odds come more into play near the end of a tournament but when we are playing online with only maybe
5-10 secs to make decisions it's the last thing your thinking about.!!
I must admit the way the analyst's hover and discuss the option's and odds over hands, while they can see all players cards is funny, ... We don't have that time luxury, all we have time to do is work out a bet size ,,
TK has the right idea when he says, "All-in or pass, no time for subtleties at this stage" ( luv it)
I think, if we were playing live then yes these points are very important, it's easy because you have maybe 2 mins to make decisions to act. What happens here is, Ed's explaining the odds and how to come to a percentage call or implied odds value for your holding cards...
Ultimately we all had to learn and we are always learning with this game, but it's good entertainment !!
Top man Ed..
Heads-up, no SB or BB in this example. Person goes all-in for 3000. If you call 3000 the pot would be 6000.
3000/6000 = 50%
If the SB is 500 and the BB is 1000 and the SB (dealer) goes all-in (the extra 2500) then there would be 4000 in the pot (their 3000 and your BB). If you call the extra 2000 the pot would be 6000.
2000/6000 = 33.3'%
The latter one gives odds of 2/1. If you lose twice (2000+2000 loss from calling, BB doesn't count) and win the other time (4000 profit from what was in the pot), you would break even.
Book prize for someone who bluffs 3 times, how did he not notice that the guy who won was a mile ahead from the start and never went behind.
A bluff i thought was winning with the worst or equal hand by betting enough to get them off it.
CONFUSED.COM
The guy who fired 3 barrels wasn't to know that his opponent only had 9 high.
And to the original question yes I think Ed sometimes gets a bit mixed up with the numbers but tbf he does only have a few seconds to think them thru while on air too, much like we do when playing in the Open.
For tournie poker you should just use the basic numbers, and tbf implied odds are to be used very sparingly in a tournie with such a weird structure as the Open.
When you are playing cash and on a site with a decent time bank then other factors come into it...
If ya just wanna play for fun then dont listen to him lol.
BLUFF: A WAGER WITH A HAND THAT IS UNLIKELY TO WIN IF CALLED
Can`t see one that says bluffing with the best hand, which was what happened.
http://www.poker-babes.com/poker/definitions/bluff/
Gary
Bluffing with Ace-high is unlikely to win if called.