turbo DYM early luck.

craigcu12

The combination of it being both a turbo and a DYM makes me wonder if these are too reliant on luck because as a turbo my chips will soon drain away and as a DYM I know players will be tight so an all in feels more like a risk.

Two days running i've had a 50/50 W/L ratio and due to rake it's costing me.

is this just an unlucky run or could the early luck in these make loss a greater risk due to rake?

DOHHHHHHH

Yah I think Mattbates and bawfizzle are the only 2 people in the World who could show a profit at low stakes turbo dyms due to the high rake/low edge.

 

TeddyBloat

The room for edge in these games at low stakes will be vast; not as vast as the rake.

Craig, you have a 58.3%  itm in turbo dyms. You crush them.

Yet you are a losing player in them.

Defo stay clear of the sub £1 ones they are a pure rake trap.

Above that they are probably just about beatable, but you may want to invest your time in games with a more player friendly rake pricing.

MrWh1te

Hi Craig

We play each other a lot and you are a good player. I like having you at the table because I know exactly what to expect from you, solid play and no stupid calls.

I actually do think they are more beatable than people think, and often feel I should put more efforts on to them.

Break-even rake is actually ok if you are smarter about things.  For instance, I play almost exclusively DYM's and freerolls on this site and regardless what sharkscope says (I think it will say -8% or so on DYM's but maybe someone who subscribes could check for me, on £2.25 games this year) I make profit.

I am £580 up on sky this year, of which £357 is since august (spiked a decent win on a mtt), The key I find to beating these games for me is to realise that yes I will lose rake, so I can only play them when a promotion is on.  And the promotion has to have a higher +ev than I would lose in rake.

The other key is site selection.  Just as people talk about table selection as being very important, I find site selection the same.  I will be on 4/5 sites at any given time, clearing points to take part in +ev promotions, with sky and 1 other providing £900 of my £1300 profit this year.    

I guess it depends on why you play.  Do you play for profit or fun.  For me, I play a couple of hours in the evenings and am using profit to pay for a wedding in vegas.  I don't have time to put in the effort to become an awesome player that can crush games, I am simply better than average and clever about what I play. 

And for the record, I think you are a much better player, so if you are playing for profit and not making as much as the numbers I have just talked about, you need to change something, whether it be table or site selection.  If you are making more profit or just playing for fun, then anything I said can be ignored
I am happy to talk further about this in pm if you wish. 

See you on the tables.

raggy94

In Response to Re: turbo DYM early luck.:

Yah I think Mattbates and bawfizzle are the only 2 people in the World who could show a profit at low stakes turbo dyms due to the high rake/low edge.  
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

Desrick609?

raggy94

They are beatable it's just that the strategy you have to employ to beat them is different than in any other game.