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No cards?

edited January 2016 in Poker Chat
I have reported this issue however, I'd just like to know if anyone else has experienced this  too?

From the picture you can see 4 tables open. 3 are fine however, top left you can see that it's my turn to act and can see the time bank ticking down but no hole cards.



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  • edited January 2016
    can't see your picture, but i can confirm this has happened to me, usually after a table break
  • edited January 2016
    i have photos of this happening to me to and also a video of me being "away" and there being no im back button
  • edited January 2016
    Yea i have posted about this a few times it happens to me aswell its very frustrating as when it usually happens most is 1st hand of a final table.
  • edited January 2016
    This used to be a regular problem during PLO8 DYMs for a lot of people. Sometimes mid-game the entire table had invisible cards. The problem seemed to be resolved, but has returned for some reason (for me anyhow) now. Sometimes mid game for no apparent reason and sometimes on existing table mid game when another table opens.
    Last two days I've probably had invisible cards 10 times, or thereabouts.

    The last time a thread was started like this, a lot of us posted hand numbers etc when we were dealt invisible cards. From memory, it didn't seem to help, there was no feedback from Sky.

    Apologies Sky if feedback did come back, I don't remember.
  • edited January 2016


    i have the same trouble especially as you say the first hand of a final table
  • edited January 2016
    Would any of you say that it's a problem with your internet connection or a software problem?

    Wgat would you say to someone suggesting it's your connection?
  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
    Would any of you say that it's a problem with your internet connection or a software problem? Wgat would you say to someone suggesting it's your connection?
    Posted by cowhead
    I would imagine Customer Care might say that, they have a liot of generic answers which are correct most of the time, but one size never fits all.

    And yes, it COULD be down to the strength, or otherwise, of anyone's connection.
     
    It does not matter though - the important thing, as I have stressed on here so many times, is to report these maladies to CC, because that means they get officially reported to the Poker Team, & that, in turn, allows them to see the frequency of the problem.

    If, (hypothetical numbers), 10,000 players a day use the site, & CC only get 2 complaints, those 2 complaints won't suggest the problem is widespread or frequent.

    As it happens, they ARE aware of this headache, & have been for a while, but I gather it's not that easy to recreate in a test environment. They don't doubt it is happening, but until they can re-simulate it actually occurring, it's tough to diagnose.
     
    They'll continue to investigate, & I'll keep you informed.   
     
  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
    This used to be a regular problem during PLO8 DYMs for a lot of people. Sometimes mid-game the entire table had invisible cards. The problem seemed to be resolved, but has returned for some reason (for me anyhow) now. Sometimes mid game for no apparent reason and sometimes on existing table mid game when another table opens. Last two days I've probably had invisible cards 10 times, or thereabouts. The last time a thread was started like this, a lot of us posted hand numbers etc when we were dealt invisible cards. From memory, it didn't seem to help, there was no feedback from Sky. Apologies Sky if feedback did come back, I don't remember.
    Posted by Macacgirl1

    I did wonder whether you could see the cards you were playing.......;-)
  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
    In Response to Re: No cards? : I would imagine Customer Care might say that, they have a liot of generic answers which are correct most of the time, but one size never fits all. And yes, it COULD be down to the strength, or otherwise, of anyone's connection.   It does not matter though - the important thing, as I have stressed on here so many times, is to report these maladies to CC, because that means they get officially reported to the Poker Team, & that, in turn, allows them to see the frequency of the problem. If, (hypothetical numbers), 10,000 players a day use the site, & CC only get 2 complaints, those 2 complaints won't suggest the problem is widespread or frequent. As it happens, they ARE aware of this headache, & have been for a while, but I gather it's not that easy to recreate in a test environment. They don't doubt it is happening, but until they can re-simulate it actually occurring, it's tough to diagnose.   They'll continue to investigate, & I'll keep you informed.     
    Posted by Tikay10
    I have reported it to CC Tony. I just wanted to know peoples opinions on whether they think its a software bug or their connection. 
    I understand it's hard to recreate a test enviroment to fix this but why don't they say that instead of suggesting i clear my internet files, update my PC and advise me not to multitable etc? 


  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
    In Response to Re: No cards? : I have reported it to CC Tony. I just wanted to know peoples opinions on whether they think its a software bug or their connection.  I understand it's hard to recreate a test enviroment to fix this but why don't they say that instead of suggesting i clear my internet files, update my PC and advise me not to multitable etc? 
    Posted by cowhead
    As I explained, it's not a complaint that CC receive very often at all, & they have a set of generic answers which solve the vast majority of problems.

    I wrote a lengthy piece on how the SB&G CC works a while back, which explained why they ask what they do, & how the system works. I'll try & find it later today, & post it, after I've been to the gym.
     
    SB&G is a very big Company, & so Customer Care is quite a task when the platform as a whole serves so many customers over the different parts of SB&G (Poker, Bingo, Bet, Vegas, Casino etc). And, as my piece explains, there's simply not enough contacts on poker to have staff on 24/7 staff dealing with poker only, they'd spend most of the day doing nothing, so they have to multi-task. 

    I'll try & find it a bit later, & I hope it will help the understanding of how they work. 

    PS - you heading down to the UKPC? If not, why not? We could have a good chat there if you buy me a latte. 

    PPS - Swansea 2, Sunderland 4. Are you kidding me?     
     
  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
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    I'm not going to the UKPC. Few reasons why not, Its too much of a hassle with travel and booking a hotel etc not knowing how long you will be there. When i play live, if its not with friends i get bored and when i get bored i drink, and when i drink i tend not to play too well.  I really find it hard to play live as its too slow for me. Tbh apart from a monthly home game i only play live maybe 2-3 times a year and thats if i get dragged out to play.

    As for the Swansea game 4-2 was excellent. The Naughton challenge was never a red and had a huge impact on the game imo. Like i said in another post though, we're scoring goals. I'd be concerned if we weren't but i think we have enough to stay up if we get a couple of defenders in. 

    I hope you took my advice and lumped some money on Boro winning te Championship. They're looking pretty good at the moment.


  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
    In Response to Re: No cards? : As I explained, it's not a complaint that CC receive very often at all, & they have a set of generic answers which solve the vast majority of problems. I wrote a lengthy piece on how the SB&G CC works a while back, which explained why they ask what they do, & how the system works. I'll try & find it later today, & post it, after I've been to the gym.   SB&G is a very big Company, & so Customer Care is quite a task when the platform as a whole serves so many customers over the different parts of SB&G (Poker, Bingo, Bet, Vegas, Casino etc). And, as my piece explains, there's simply not enough contacts on poker to have staff on 24/7 staff dealing with poker only, they'd spend most of the day doing nothing, so they have to multi-task.  I'll try & find it a bit later, & I hope it will help the understanding of how they work.  PS - you heading down to the UKPC? If not, why not? We could have a good chat there if you buy me a latte.  PPS - Swansea 2, Sunderland 4. Are you kidding me?       
    Posted by Tikay10
    What are you delivering there?
  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
    In Response to Re: No cards? : As I explained, it's not a complaint that CC receive very often at all, & they have a set of generic answers which solve the vast majority of problems. I wrote a lengthy piece on how the SB&G CC works a while back, which explained why they ask what they do, & how the system works. I'll try & find it later today, & post it, after I've been to the gym.   SB&G is a very big Company, & so Customer Care is quite a task when the platform as a whole serves so many customers over the different parts of SB&G (Poker, Bingo, Bet, Vegas, Casino etc). And, as my piece explains, there's simply not enough contacts on poker to have staff on 24/7 staff dealing with poker only, they'd spend most of the day doing nothing, so they have to multi-task.  I'll try & find it a bit later, & I hope it will help the understanding of how they work.  PS - you heading down to the UKPC? If not, why not? We could have a good chat there if you buy me a latte.  PPS - Swansea 2, Sunderland 4. Are you kidding me?       
    Posted by Tikay10

    That piece on Customer Care I mentioned is HERE
  • edited January 2016


    A quick PS to that thread (which was a FAIL, as nobody seemed to take any notice) included this tongue in cheek post by my very good friend Ger;

    "Customer care will thank you for destroying its service levels Tikay lol."

    Suggesting that as a result, a lot more contacts would arise.
     
    In fact, it would IMPROVE some of their stats, as more contacts would reduce the cost per contact.

    Contacts & service levels are measured, actual & v forecast, in a whole multitude of ways, by Product, reason, contact method (calls, e-Mails, chat), cost per product, success rate, speed of response, & so on. It's all summarised in a daily report. 

    Customer Care is a very high priority right across SB&G, & they strive constantly to improve it, which is done by analysing the stats within the contact Centre Daily Report. There is a win win here - Customer Care is actually a means to IMPROVE the Product. However, complaints made via the Forum are not included in those stats. And of course, customers using the Forum to abuse the site is why other Online Poker Sites don't have a Community.
     
  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
    A quick PS to that thread (which was a FAIL, as nobody seemed to take any notice
    Posted by Tikay10

    Make it a 'sticky', then everyone will notice. Definitely.

    ;-)


  • edited January 2016
    In Response to Re: No cards?:
    In Response to Re: No cards? : Make it a 'sticky', then everyone will notice. Definitely. ;-)
    Posted by NoseyBonk
    Ha. 

    I have a theory that the "sticky system" does not work, because they are usually boring stuff such as rules & guidelines. And nobody reads them.
     
    There are
    some grand exceptions of course, such as Gary's Results thread, which ironically does not need to be stickied, as it keeps itself near the top.
     
    In my view, "stickies" have EXACTLY the opposite effect to that intended. A good thread keeps itself prominent.
     
    I never like to see more than 2 stickies per Board.  
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