Brexit and sky poker

sikas

Would it be better for Skypoker and perhaps the UK online poker industry as a whole if we remain/leave the EU, or will it have no effect whatsoever?

CxE1

none

goldon

 Its a lose lose situation.

gerardirl

Hope it has no effect, being from ireland it would be a disaster if it meant I couldnt play on Sky!

chilling

You may have to move to the mainland ger, to become an englishman , a welshman, or scotsman.You decide.

Nuggy962

Can't see it making any difference to who can play the site. All ready is uk is not an EU site

It's more behind the scenes stuff long term. How much tax they are charged, will uk bring in new gaming rules, but I would suggest all this stuff is a long way even if we do exit. More important things for country to tackle befor nitty gritty  

chilling

Aren't Finland under the SkyPoker umbrella?

cenachav

Kylla

ACEGOONER

In Response to Re: Brexit and sky poker:

Can't see it making any difference to who can play the site. All ready is uk is not an EU site It's more behind the scenes stuff long term. How much tax they are charged, will uk bring in new gaming rules, but I would suggest all this stuff is a long way even if we do exit. More important things for country to tackle befor nitty gritty  
Posted by Nuggy962

Looking at it from at company level is a bit too simplistic imo. From Sky's perspective and I guess a lot of players on sky it's the economic impact brexit will have on the player pool. If brexit as has been suggested causes a recession or a downturn in the economy then yes it will have an impact on punters visiting the sportsbook, playing the casino and poker sites.  

HaveaA1Day

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Aren't Finland under the SkyPoker umbrella?
Posted by chilling

Is there any Finns on here?

chilling

Yeah,unless Helsinki has a double.Diabli or somethig similar was located in Helsinki.

Also all fish have fins.

GELDY

In Response to Re: Brexit and sky poker:

In Response to Re: Brexit and sky poker : Looking at it from at company level is a bit too simplistic imo. From Sky's perspective and I guess a lot of players on sky it's the economic impact brexit will have on the player pool. If brexit as has been suggested causes a recession or a downturn in the economy then yes it will have an impact on punters visiting the sportsbook, playing the casino and poker sites.  
Posted by ACEGOONER

Company perspective could be important though. Private equity will be less interested in UK investments and skypoker.com might end up on the chopping block.

ACEGOONER

In Response to Re: Brexit and sky poker:

In Response to Re: Brexit and sky poker : Company perspective could be important though. Private equity will be less interested in UK investments and skypoker.com might end up on the chopping block.
Posted by GELDY

My understanding is that the sky poker is owned by a private equity firm?  If this is the case, then it's a question of what Brexit will do to the profitability of the company. If we have a downturn in the economy as a result of brexit, then yes you could be right. 

markycash

In my opinion, and in short, nobody knows for sure the impact on the UK and it will 'probably' have a negligible impact either way.

The long winded version... 18 months ago I was undecided as I did not feel I had the information to make an informed choice. I then wrote a politics paper on it from a UK perspective (if anyone has lost the will to live and wants to read it I can post it). After writing the paper it looked quite clear cut that the UK should remain in the EU.

I also believe 'in general' it is better to be part of a larger collective governing body to encourage heightened standards of living for a larger amount of people. As opposed to losts of individual nation states making their own rules up, fueling nationalism and inevitably leading to antagonisms. A quick look at history shows how useful this path is.

Then some months later I wrote a sociology paper on the 'global south' (countries looking to develop such as in Africa and the ex colonies). I then came to the conclusion that the EU is overly focussed upon profit (at the expense of global citizens and the wellbeing of all people), over prioritises business interests and has no problem giving countries from the global south such shoddy trade deals that it makes it hard for individuals from these countries to prosper.

Although leaving the EU 'may' be throwing the 'baby out with the bathwater' so to speak. Maybe EU reform is the answer. As the EU has partly unelected depertaments and pretty fixed capitalist priorities this reform may be difficult/impossible to achieve.

If the UK leaves the EU we will in one sense have shot ourselves in the foot as, despite the media headlines, we firstly need at least some form of immigrant workers and secondly would lose a lot of trade deals which have been agreed through the EU. That being said, I doubt we would build 'a big wall' to keep everyone else out as some other countries politicians have considered and the UK would be free to form it's own trade deals outwith the EU. The negotiation skills of business leaders and policy effectiveness of politicians will largely determine how well that works out.

For the UK it could be a major success or massive failure whether we stay or leave. This will come down to the policies of the UK or EU and how well they are implemented. Either route could be great or terrible or more likely indifferent.

The only thing I would say for certain is that a large percentage of the politicians (not all) are immaturely bickering, treating their electorate with contempt, disseminating a lot of propoganda, serving their own political and financial interests and not acting in the best spirit of democracy. How great a deal either route is for the man/woman on the street is not the biggest priority for many politicians (again not all) and I would treat anything said by either side with great scepticism.

Either way if there is an impact on Sky it should be a long way off in my opinion.

VespaPX

In Response to Re: Brexit and sky poker:

In my opinion, and in short, nobody knows for sure the impact on the UK and it will 'probably' have a negligible impact either way. The long winded version... 18 months ago I was undecided as I did not feel I had the information to make an informed choice. I then wrote a politics paper on it from a UK perspective (if anyone has lost the will to live and wants to read it I can post it). After writing the paper it looked quite clear cut that the UK should remain in the EU. I also believe 'in general' it is better to be part of a larger collective governing body to encourage heightened standards of living for a larger amount of people. As opposed to losts of individual nation states making their own rules up, fueling nationalism and inevitably leading to antagonisms. A quick look at history shows how useful this path is. Then some months later I wrote a sociology paper on the 'global south' (countries looking to develop such as in Africa and the ex colonies). I then came to the conclusion that the EU is overly focussed upon profit (at the expense of global citizens and the wellbeing of all people), over prioritises business interests and has no problem giving countries from the global south such shoddy trade deals that it makes it hard for individuals from these countries to prosper. Although leaving the EU 'may' be throwing the 'baby out with the bathwater' so to speak. Maybe EU reform is the answer. As the EU has partly unelected depertaments and pretty fixed capitalist priorities this reform may be difficult/impossible to achieve. If the UK leaves the EU we will in one sense have shot ourselves in the foot as, despite the media headlines, we firstly need at least some form of immigrant workers and secondly would lose a lot of trade deals which have been agreed through the EU. That being said, I doubt we would build 'a big wall' to keep everyone else out as some other countries politicians have considered and the UK would be free to form it's own trade deals outwith the EU. The negotiation skills of business leaders and policy effectiveness of politicians will largely determine how well that works out. For the UK it could be a major success or massive failure whether we stay or leave. This will come down to the policies of the UK or EU and how well they are implemented. Either route could be great or terrible or more likely indifferent. The only thing I would say for certain is that a large percentage of the politicians (not all) are immaturely bickering, treating their electorate with contempt, disseminating a lot of propoganda, serving their own political and financial interests and not acting in the best spirit of democracy. How great a deal either route is for the man/woman on the street is not the biggest priority for many politicians (again not all) and I would treat anything said by either side with great scepticism. Either way if there is an impact on Sky it should be a long way off in my opinion.
Posted by markycash

Great post Mark

Decisions, decisions..................should be made in the country they affect, not by faceless,unelected civil servants across the Channel.

The plain truth is that nobody really knows what will happen if we leave/stay but i'm willing to take a punt.

Nail on head with this:

The only thing I would say for certain is that a large percentage of the politicians (not all) are immaturely bickering, treating their electorate with contempt, disseminating a lot of propoganda, serving their own political and financial interests and not acting in the best spirit of democracy.

aussie09

if we are out, don't worry, we can always rebuy back in.

VespaPX

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if we are out, don't worry, we can always rebuy back in.
Posted by aussie09

Its one big cash game so we're stuffed