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100NL Deep vs tricky reg

edited October 2016 in The Poker Clinic
Haven't played him before this session, think he plays higher normally. heres some relevant(?) history

Hand History #1061041163 (19:33 23/07/2016)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
JMcCririckSmall blind £0.50£0.50£286.96
E_rubeculaBig blind £1.00£1.50£103.52
 Your hole cards
  • 3
  • 3
   
SkyWagesRaise £2.50£4.00£199.27
JMcCririckRaise £8.50£12.50£278.46
E_rubeculaFold    
SkyWagesCall £6.50£19.00£192.77
Flop
  
  • 2
  • 8
  • 10
   
JMcCririckBet £10.00£29.00£268.46
SkyWagesCall £10.00£39.00£182.77
Turn
  
  • 2
   
JMcCririckBet £20.00£59.00£248.46
SkyWagesCall £20.00£79.00£162.77
River
  
  • 5
   
JMcCririckBet £61.00£140.00£187.46
SkyWagesCall £61.00£201.00£101.77
JMcCririckShow
  • J
  • Q
   
SkyWagesShow
  • 3
  • 3
   
SkyWagesWinTwo Pairs, 3s and 2s£199.20 £300.97

Hand History #1061029484 (19:00 23/07/2016)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
BrownnDogSmall blind £0.50£0.50£101.19
SkyWagesBig blind £1.00£1.50£205.00
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • A
   
Arranv93Fold    
hhamza162Fold    
JMcCririckRaise £3.00£4.50£224.96
dal4169Call £3.00£7.50£56.94
BrownnDogFold    
SkyWagesRaise £10.00£17.50£195.00
JMcCririckCall £8.00£25.50£216.96
dal4169Fold    
Flop
  
  • 8
  • 9
  • 3
   
SkyWagesBet £16.00£41.50£179.00
JMcCririckCall £16.00£57.50£200.96
Turn
  
  • 2
   
SkyWagesBet £38.00£95.50£141.00
JMcCririckCall £38.00£133.50£162.96
River
  
  • 10
   
SkyWagesCheck    
JMcCririckCheck    
SkyWagesShow
  • K
  • A
   
JMcCririckShow
  • J
  • 10
   
JMcCririckWinPair of 10s£131.70 £294.66
Reads: At this point guy is 3b me pretty rabidly and i've been folding a tonne, decide to widen 4b range to A2-A6, AJ+, TT+. He probably views me as kind of nitty PF, maybe somewhat stationy. Think he plays draws fairly passively when he doesn't have betting lead in generaly but esp in 3b & 4b pots. Thats p much all I have, like I say 1st time i've played him.

Hand History #1061044572 (19:43 23/07/2016)

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PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
zinfanSmall blind £0.50£0.50£200.00
JMcCririckBig blind £1.00£1.50£280.57
 Your hole cards
  • 6
  • A
   
E_rubeculaFold    

Comments

  • edited July 2016
    0 idea how to format this, hand in question is A6o BTN vs BB
  • edited August 2016
    Why are you 4b A6o? For value or as a bluff?

    Think its probably a fold v villain as described.

    Do you think this guy is any good 
  • edited August 2016
    Hand 1, Is a fold on the turn, if not flop.

    Hand 2, Quite unusual betting the turn, if you want to bet the turn, you should be following through OTR and 3 barrelling.

    Hand 3, not to sure about the 4 bet, prob fold>call>4 bet.


  • edited August 2016
    Hand 1, as said fold on flop.

    Hand 2, raise bigger pre to 15+ there is 1 raise with a call already in the hand raising to 10 doesnt acomplish much as they are getting decent price to call you and you are out of position which is bad.
    I like the sizing on the flop (especially if we hit the board) but we are giving him good odds to hit.
    Also a check is ok,
    If we are betting turn I would size it and jam river but check folding is fine on turn.

    hand 3, A6 is a bad 4 bet hand,
    We flop the world with our hand and I would bet bigger on flop bigger on turn and as played call river.
    is opponent really shoving river playing a flush this way with AKs AQs (all which might 5bet shove on you pre and if not get it in on the flop depending on opponent tendancies)

    hope my explanations help you.
    Natalie

  • edited August 2016
    Hand 1. were just opening ourselves up to be value owned. If we are calling literally every bluff catcher here then were gonna get crushed.

    Hand 2. Im just c/folding flop, maybe c/call.

    Hand 3. Im not a fan of 4b here, I think we are opening our 4b range just a bit too wide, but obviously your not going to be doing this all the time, I much prefer this than call, and I dont think its all that bad. I cant see stacks but seems really deep, I would opt for £20-£22.
    Personally I would bet flop smaller, £16-£20. I like turn.
    River sucks, but this is the best hand were gonna have here with the exception of flushes. Im gonna call off
  • edited October 2016
    Thanks for input.

    Honestly hand 1 i'm pretty sure is fine and is the bets out of the 3. 16 combo's of QJ, 4 of J9s, 4 of Q9s, 4 of 97s & all AcXc vs 3 of TT, 12 of AT and 24 of JJ+. 33 is much better hand to call with than JTs and i think if we fold 33 here we're probably overfolding given i'd probably be leaning toward folding alot of my top pair thats not AT/KT and were getting like 2.5:1.

    Hand 2 is dogshit, not much to see here folks im a bad reg.

    Hand 3 I agree 4b is probably bad. I feel like if we go GTO on riv were just burning money. I can't see any way he can have a bluff. Maybe like 7c7x??
  • edited October 2016
    1. fold turn

    2. raise bigger pre, check flop

    3. fold pre
  • edited October 2016
    I followed this for awhile, not sure how qualified I am, but...

    hand 3. I think I agree with Natalie, call it off.

    Most likely value hands at the river are 99 and AQs-a really narrow range.

    Does Villain call 4! with small pairs? if not 44, 55 are unlikely. Villain could have AAc or KKc and just knows you don't often have a flush if he's holding Ac or Kc. he never puts you on trips or boat.

    I guess the answer lies in how villain sees you and game dynamics and whether he can bluff for stacks.
  • edited October 2016
    Without the time to go into more detailed analysis; in the first hand you're quite fortunate that you get one of the best runouts for your actual hand (without improving), i.e. no broadway cards or Ax, which kind of allows you to consider calling due to your anti-blockers (?) - like I think you mentioned earlier, because of the fact villain is likely to have a lot of QJ, KJ, KQ - which are all off suit combos - and then some more suited combos, it's very possible that he's overbluffing this river unless he's making the effort not to bluff some of those tempting bluffing combos @ some %. So, the point is, by the time you get to the river I think your call is probably fine vs a perhaps too aggressive regular, but you're almost certainly losing money with your flop + turn calls. 
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