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Bum Hunting Outside Software
Just a quick query, i probably might be wrong to assume it but is there a program that instantly seats or notifies you when there is a rec at a table (i know there is for other sites) on sky?
Reason i ask is that i accidently seated an empty high stakes spin up table. I was within 1 second sat by a high stakes reg and then another even though they was multi tabling they sat within 2 seconds of me sitting. So i left then they left. So i thought it was maybe a coincidence and they had tried opening a table so i thought, ill try it again and it happened on numerous occasions. I don't understand how they can sit in literally 2 seconds while multi tabling and how do they know a non reg has sat on that one perticular table?
Reason i ask is that i accidently seated an empty high stakes spin up table. I was within 1 second sat by a high stakes reg and then another even though they was multi tabling they sat within 2 seconds of me sitting. So i left then they left. So i thought it was maybe a coincidence and they had tried opening a table so i thought, ill try it again and it happened on numerous occasions. I don't understand how they can sit in literally 2 seconds while multi tabling and how do they know a non reg has sat on that one perticular table?
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Just not by recreationals, who are under the impression that they don't work on the site.
From time to time, players devise Heath Robinson style software to try to get round the system, & cheat.
It gets reported to Sky Poker, they work with the players to identify who is doing what, & eventually, the problem gets solved.
Hinting or alluding to it on the Forum serves no purpose, (other than alerting the would-be miscreants), none at all. Senior, responsible players should know that.
If you think you have evidence of foul play, the interests of EVERYONE are best served by reporting it to Sky Poker, via the correct channels. Give them aliases & hard evidence, & then they can get on the case.
If you think Customer Care won't appreciate the gravity of it, send me a PM & I will give you the e-Mail address of the right person in Sky Poker to send your concerns to, & they will get on the case tout de suit
We are not gonna have a witch hunt on the Forum though, so please post responsibly.
If you have concerns, REPORT THEM via the correct & sensible channels, NOT on the Forum.
Thanks.
*edit, just re-read this and its not ok to post haha, sorry*
As for the impact for players on the site:
seating scripts for cash are obviously predatory and unwanted by both regs and the recs they hunt. for SNG's i'm not sure the imact on recs is great [they play regs as normal] but for some regs they wont have as efficient game selection / registration procedures so it could affect them in some way. but most regs wont reg a 3reg DYM lobby anyway - and some will already de-reg when 2 other good regs join. these scripts will automate this and increase hourly / reduce mental resource being dedicated to this task.
For HUDS / tracking software if i was a recreational it wouldnt bother me in the slightest other than it would annoy me that a fun peice of geek-kit was being denied to me but not others. For regs playing by the rules it will be mega annoying as regs with HUDS who are putting in the off table work will have extra edge on those regs playing without tracking software [and we can assume anyone going to the trouble of using eg HEM on sky will also be putting in the work - but some people are lazy].
in the valley of the blind the one-eyed man is king, etc
and have been for years.
some arent functionally great and not useful for most formats. but there are work-a-rounds to get HEM working on sky, and PT4 wouldnt pose a huge problem either i suppose [i believe its harder to trick PT4 into recognising a skypoker window as a poker table, but its just a matter of clever prgramming imo) their use is far from widespread as far as i know. but i do know of players using and claiming to use HUDS. there is one person selling software that allows HEM to be used on sky. you can be sure private software is already doing something similar.
sky claim they can and have blocked these work-a-rounds, but its very hard for them to do so imo. the only way of stopping it is detectionand warning
pokerstars for example can see the processes running on your computer, can track mouse clicks and programs interacting with their software. in theory they can access your browing history and take screengrabs -although they claim they do not do this. people have to very careful if they are going to break stars TOS. i have had a warning message off stars when i opened coffeecalcs a few seconds before i closed stars [i had no table running for a number of hours and simply forgot the client was opened].
can sky detect these things when a player is playing through a browser? is their software able to outmatch clever uses of 3rd party apps?
Pokertracker, HEM and other major tracking softwares do not support sky for the record, and will not help people break TOS. but theres nothing stopping smaller operators and programmers, or players from hiring people to make work-arounds.
its not something i would worry about. for most players playing against people with HUDS will make ZERO difference to their experience, it annoying that you dont get the pleasure of being able to track your own play - but people wont be exploiting you.
for regs in some formats its going to hurt thier winrate and they will be exploited.
its a simple fact that on any site a very very small % of players will find ways fo breaking terms of service and these breaches will have varying levels of negative impacts to different player groups.
i doubt more than a handful of players have a HUD up, some of them wont run smoothly, and only some % of those handful will put in the off table work to actually exploit people.
seating scripts i would bet are much more prevelant, but easier to spot.
keep calm and carry on, basically.
The game should be down to skill and reads on opponent, nothing better than referring to my notes and making a hero call with 8th pair!