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Which countries are allowed to play on Sky Poker?
I was under the impression it was UK only, but that seems not the case now
I was under the impression it was UK only, but that seems not the case now
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My partner is on another poker forum where players from places like Bosnia and Croatia are openly discussing games they have won here and when she queried it, was told it is legal.
My partner is convinced they wouldn't lie.
Who knows eh!
As any seasoned poker player will know, it seems quite easy to circumvent.
However, the problem arises when they try to withdraw, as they are required to send documentary proof that they are based in a permitted jurisdiction. They won't get paid unless they can do that, & this particular scenario is very easy to enforce.
I would rather we (you & I) did not go into details on the open forum, but as we both now know, the player in question has now posted on a Forum elsewhere stating that he has been unable to withdraw his Held Funds, as they have been blocked. I would say, from the info he posted elsewhere, he has zero chance of being paid.
To be fair, I don't think the player in question realised it was against the Sky Poker Terms of Service.
He does now though.......
I am of the understanding that if someone is caught cheating, their funds are redistributed to players involved. This is certainly what happens on the main sites.
This case is slightly different because he hasn't actually cheated or by-passed anything. He was allowed to sign up the account.
Also, and this is a HUGE cliff, but it seems it has since emerged that he is based in Ireland and IS allowed an account, but he just cant prove it at this time as sky wont accept certain documents that he has.
I think it is just a great big grey area that he has fallen foul of.
In this case, don't the funds stay in the account for 6 years or something? Then they get removed as 'fees'. Or distributed to charity?
It would certainly be against the ToS & against the local legislation to deposit or withdraw whilst in Spain or Italy. As to actually playing on Sky Poker whilst there, I don't really know, seems a bit of a grey area.
I would advise against doing it, personally, as Sky Poker MIGHT see fit to take some form of remedial action.
His is The Dame/ When is that trip to Ireland that she won?
Take care mate, & HNY.
Yes, this one looks to be a bit awkward, but I don't believe any deliberate malpractice went off. I do hope it gets sorted fairly & amicably.
As to confiscated funds, it is not as simple as it might seem.
Imagine a scenario where a player is discovered to be in breach of the ToS after, say, a week, in which he has sat on 100 different cash tables, or 30 different MTT's. How can The Business fairly equate where that money may or may not belong. It's completely impossible.
Take it a step further - some players would have WON against him. Should they refund their winnings? It's like a byzantine maze or Chinese puzzle trying to sort that.
Where it is straightforward, refunds ARE made, & have been countless times.
I can say this though - the GC insists that these things are handled properly, & there is a sturdy process in place.
The whole idea that Sky Poker might try to deliberately evade refunds where necessary & applicable is incorrect, it's the last thing they would ever want to do, they are not that kind of Business, they try to treat Clients properly & fairly, always. That's their policy.
It's just much more complex than some appear to realise.
Of course, if anyone has a genuine grievance, they are free to take it up with The Business, & if that fails, the GC. A link to the GC is on every page of the site.
We won't be going into detail on this Forum, but I'm sorry to hear this. I'm sure there must be good reason for the way it was handled, & think you know that.
"don't like you very much"? That I doubt. It's never personal, it's a Business. You are as valued as everyone else, & your custom - & in some matters, discretion - is genuinely appreciated.
I said "I have no idea".
I do, however, reasonaby assume that they handle it in accordance with GC direrctives.
Poker is a tiny part of SB&G as a whole, so the issue is much much wider than just poker, by a multiplier of hundreds. And the resource (Staff) needed to deal with it will be considerable.
If we take the example of the OP's situation, describing a Croatian National now apparently in Ireland, the amount of e-mails, forms & general correspondence going back & forth, & inter-company, would have cost many times in excess of 30 Euros.
If you don't wish to read my replies, fine, but repeating myself the third time now, I have no idea what happens to confiscated funds.
I am in my 11th year with Sky Poker & communicate with The Business numerous times daily, but I don't know the answer, so I don't really know how you can claim to know the answer.
I've also explained at great length the potential difficulties that can & do arise when trying to redistribute confiscated funds, & that they are & have been reimbursed on numerous occasions. So I know they ARE when it is possible. Beyond that, I genuinely don't know, & nor do you.
I also gave you advice on the means to take up such a grievance, either with The Business or the GC.
SB&G have one licence with the GC to cover Poker, Sports Betting, Casino, Vegas & Bingo. The Business was sold for £800 million 2 years ago & must now be worth at least double that. Without a Gaming Licence, the business is dead in the water. So everything it does it does exactly in accordance with GC rules. It would be madness not to.
I never "hinted" that confiscated funds are used to defray costs - I simply explained some detail to give proper context to the issue in the grand scheme of things. I did that because it seems to me that you have limited experience & knowledge of how Online Gaming sites work & have never owned one or worked for one. They make good money via rake & margin, that's the Business Model, & that includes treating Clients as fairly & properly as they can. And that is why SB&G is now the biggest site of it's kind in the UK.
I am here to try to act as a bridge between player & The Business, & if players have a genuine & relevant question I give them a prompt & polite reply. Always.
The answer I gave (4 times now) was "I don't know". That's a fact.
If you are not gong to read my replies, I am not going to respond further to you on this matter, as you seem to prefer reading between the lines rather than the actual lines.