Proceeding....

hhyftrftdr

trip10s	Small blind		40.00	40.00	5418.75
gpc70	Big blind		80.00	120.00	6290.00
	Your hole cards	J J
swordsman	Call		80.00	200.00	3625.00
hercules20	Fold
X	Call		80.00	280.00	3962.50
hhyftrftdr	Raise		400.00	680.00	2343.75
trip10s	Fold
gpc70	Fold
swordsman	Call		320.00	1000.00	3305.00
X	Call		320.00	1320.00	3642.50
Flop
		6 Q 2
swordsman	Check
X	Bet		990.00	2310.00	2652.50
hhyftrftdr           ?

hhyftrftdr

Last nights mini.

Random villain so essentially readless, did do the odd limp in and whatnot but nothing concrete to form a decent read from the time we'd shared the table.

Its on you/me facing the donk bet...

Essexphil

Stack size is awkward.

I'm sigh shoving and hoping the guy has 2 diamonds....prob close re shoving/folding-calling is a no-no

weecheez1

its a fold for me the limp,the call then the donk could be diamonds but i think one of them could be the queen blinds are only 40/80 plenty of better spots any one of them could of hit the flop

Essexphil

In Response to Re: Proceeding....:

its a fold for me the limp,the call then the donk could be diamonds but i think one of them could be the queen blinds are only 40/80 plenty of better spots any one of them could of hit the flop
Posted by weecheez1

This isn't a great spot. However, disagree that there are "plenty of better spots", not least because nearly 20% of our (not large) stack is already sitting in the middle....sometimes you just have to get it in even if you suspect you may be behind

fi33er

Yes that is a tough spot, i would prob shove 70% of the time and fold 30% of the time with no info on the players.  I hate spots like that......

IDONKCALLU

im folding here if u call here ya playing fr stacks as villian just gonna jam the turn any turn card so the decision is here u happy to call and call on turn with 1 over thats down to u for me its a fold tho 

IDONKCALLU

fwiw im never shoving here   if u shove u can still get him to fold its a call on flop and call turn what do we achieve by shoving here 

shakinaces

Shouldn't really have any Qx in their range and think fair to assume 62 wouldn't play pre. 

Therefore 66 and 22 are the only things that *should* be beating us on this flop, although they should still be c/c or c/r, but lots do opt to lead MW to avoid the raiser checking behind and giving free cards to FDs.

Other limper is always a consideration, but equally they *should* only have 22 or 66 that beat you in this spot.

Anyway, shame our bounty is the one at risk, but can't be respecting donk bets IMO.  Could easily see oppo having other mid pairs 33-88 or weird FD that have played the hand poorly. 

Raise GII and hope to hold / do suckouts.  With deeper stacks I'd prefer to call down on any non-diamond turn and most rivers.

Sucks if he does have a Qx and hopefully can dump a note on them before the table closes.

How did the rest of the hand play out?

FeelGroggy

I think limp callers could definitely have Qx hands here, hands like KQ QJ QT Q9s. It really is an awkward spot on the flop. It is surprising that a player who approached the flop so passively now decides to donk bomb the flop. I think with a player behind and the passive player randomly bombing and otherwise readless I'd probably lean slightly towards a fold although it is very close. If I was to decide to go with the hand, I'd rather play it a flat so if he's randomly bluffing stone nothing we give him the illusion of being able to bluff us off our hand on the turn

Kevilfish

It's a bad spot, I'd fold. I can't see any worse 1-pair hands they lead with, you're ahead of a flush draw with possibly 1 over-card, 40-50% chance of losing the hand, you've only invested 5bb's and still got 30 back and you have a player to act behind.

reeler

im sigh calling i dont think he has 66 or 22 he has either 2 diamonds or the aq qk yeah sigh call take notes and move on

hhyftrftdr

I knew it was a fold on the flop, so I called. And was rewarded for my heroic peel with a Jack on the turn.

HENDRIK62

In Response to Re: Proceeding....:

I knew it was a fold on the flop, so I called. And was rewarded for my heroic peel with a Jack on the turn.
Posted by hhyftrftdr

fortune favours the......... (insert appropriate adjective)

hhyftrftdr

In Response to Re: Proceeding....:

In Response to Re: Proceeding.... : fortune favours the......... (insert appropriate adjective)
Posted by HENDRIK62

Fortune certainly doesn't favour the bitter.

Angmar2626

How does he not have Qx in his range? Most people in the mini prob iso QQ/AQ (not always) and overlimp all other Q8+

Villain flop lead is lol when you're going to cbet this board such high frequency. No offence if reading!