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that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!

edited March 2010 in Area 51
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
walkeran07 Small blind   400.00 400.00 12067.50
mr_taf Big blind   800.00 1200.00 4540.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • K
     
jobes All-in   15155.00 16355.00 0.00
wyteknight Fold        
Dozza All-in   13340.00 29695.00 0.00
scraggs2 Fold        
walkeran07 Fold        
mr_taf Fold        
jobes Unmatched bet   1815.00 27880.00 1815.00
jobes Show
  • 10
  • A
     
Dozza Show
  • A
  • K
     
Flop
   
  • 8
  • J
  • 4
     
Turn
   
  • 3
     
River
   
  • K
     
jobes Win Flush to the Jack 27880.00   29695.00
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Comments

  • edited February 2010
    I've had worse....Then again I've had better - as I'm sure you have!!!

    x
  • edited February 2010

    that one soon got topped in the next bounty hunter tourney....

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    stevepeps Small blind  75.00 75.00 1645.00
    necmitch Big blind  150.00 225.00 6655.00
      Your hole cards
    • 3
    • 3
         
    Dozza Call  150.00 375.00 7372.50
    carravagio Call  150.00 525.00 1855.00
    beatson Fold     
    stevepeps Call  75.00 600.00 1570.00
    necmitch Check     
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 8
    • 10
         
    stevepeps Check     
    necmitch Bet  300.00 900.00 6355.00
    Dozza Call  300.00 1200.00 7072.50
    carravagio All-in  1855.00 3055.00 0.00
    stevepeps Fold     
    necmitch Call  1555.00 4610.00 4800.00
    Dozza All-in  7072.50 11682.50 0.00
    necmitch Fold     
    Dozza Unmatched bet  5517.50 6165.00 5517.50
    Dozza Show
    • 3
    • 3
       
    carravagio Show
    • 9
    • 10
       
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    carravagio Win Full House, 10s and 8s 6165.00  6165.00
  • edited February 2010

    Man you are unlucky. had similar savagings myself.

    Like everyone says and must be true, what is the point of it being fixed. Especially if it was fixed in a way that just unfairly annoys everyone.

    I have never been on other sites so i don't know if they're worse or better, not first hand anyway, but i don't get anywhere near as many bad beats when i play live. I just put it down to the fact that i am 'luckier' when playing live.

    Just like some people get mugged every time at the bookies but always get winners if they go to the races.

    But on sky as in the bookies loads more hands to bet on, loads more people against you, loads of different games to play one after the other after the other.

    Just bad luck mate i'm sure.


    Peace.

    Airwalker

  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
    Man you are unlucky. had similar savagings myself. Like everyone says and must be true, what is the point of it being fixed. Especially if it was fixed in a way that just unfairly annoys everyone. I have never been on other sites so i don't know if they're worse or better, not first hand anyway, but i don't get anywhere near as many bad beats when i play live. I just put it down to the fact that i am 'luckier' when playing live. Just like some people get mugged every time at the bookies but always get winners if they go to the races. But on sky as in the bookies loads more hands to bet on, loads more people against you, loads of different games to play one after the other after the other. Just bad luck mate i'm sure. Peace. Airwalker
    Posted by AIRWALKER
    this happens on all sites and isnt all that uncommon when you work out the odds they arent as big as you would think . still unlucky though
  • edited February 2010
    bad luck yes,but fixed gies a brek
  • edited February 2010

    ye it is a fix dozza sky poker are out to get you mate. lol you should leg it! 

  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
    ye it is a fix dozza sky poker are out to get you mate. lol you should leg it! 
    Posted by IANMAC1

    This.

    People always say that the site wouldn't fix the cards because there's no reason for them to do so as it doesn't actually make them any more money.

    But what that fails to take into account is that, at the end of the day, the site is still run by individual people - so they just fix the cards against the people that they just don't like.

    I'd give up if I were you, because there's no way now for you to win if they're out to get you.

  • edited February 2010
    Tin foil hats at the ready boys, they are reading you thoughts lol
  • edited February 2010
    isit fixed when you win a tornie or sitand go????? or isit fixed so every1 loses? means all the money ive won over the years some1s fixed for me!!! I LIKE 2 THANK THAT PERSON LOL,
  • edited February 2010

     let me put this by you all, sky only make money off the buyins and anties in cash games yeah. oh and also the intrest off the cash that every 1 puts in. my question is how much a week do they pay the presenters all of them also the camera guy floor manager and every tom mick and harry it takes to run sky poker, after they have payed every 1 how much profit will they make over 12 months gets you thinking and there seems to b a lot of tempting hands get thrown about to make you bet i also play live and seem to do better than online but i have also won online but it is harder online than live thats for sure iam still not decided about sky even tho i won the 1k guaranteed last friday my first win on here, since then nothing talk about playing when your hot lol i hope its not fixed  because i like  the set up but if i think that it is well my cash will go somewhere else you have got to have fair gaming but it seems that a lot of people on here think that it is fixed all i can say is if your not happy take your cash elsewhere at the end of the day sky lose out if you do   good luck at the tables folks  bye for now

  • edited February 2010
    This weekend I all but emptied my sky account (apart from about 3 quid to mess about with ) and opened an account on one of the big sites because I cant get in the games I want on here due to the waiting lists.  The bad beats are just as bad on  the new site.  Ive had my aces busted by Kings 3 times already.  People hitting runner runner on the turn and river after ive got the money in well ahead on the flop.  Im not sure if hey have a forum or Area 51 type place on here but I could fill it myself.
  • edited February 2010

    Dont worry we all have been there many times over !! heres one i made earlier tonight do i get a blue peter badge















    Player

    Action
    CardsAmountPotBalance
    dolphins65 Small blind  200.00 200.00 28080.00
    JONONZIE Big blind  400.00 600.00 9725.00
      Your hole cards
    • 5
    • 5
         
    mugsy777 Fold     
    DEBBIE222 Fold     
    DogWalker1 Fold     
    sup3rstar Raise  800.00 1400.00 15985.00
    dolphins65 Raise  1000.00 2400.00 27080.00
    JONONZIE Call  800.00 3200.00 8925.00
    sup3rstar Call  400.00 3600.00 15585.00
    Flop
       
    • K
    • K
    • 5
         
    dolphins65 Bet  1200.00 4800.00 25880.00
    JONONZIE Raise  2400.00 7200.00 6525.00
    sup3rstar Fold     
    dolphins65 Raise  3200.00 10400.00 22680.00
    JONONZIE All-in  6525.00 16925.00 0.00
    dolphins65 Call  4525.00 21450.00 18155.00
    dolphins65 Show
    • K
    • Q
       
    JONONZIE Show
    • 5
    • 5
       
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    River
       
    • Q
         
    dolphins65 Win Full House, Kings and Queens 21450.00  39605.00
  • edited February 2010


       I also sharkscope the people who outdraw me and they are nearly always on a very downward slope and in the RED
  • edited February 2010


     another game tonight, last time I had full house and got rivered by a bigger full house this time i hit two pair and got rivered again by a bigger two pair!!!

     wheres me tin foil hat!!

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceNColley Small blind  50.00 50.00 2330.00 JONONZIE Big blind  100.00 150.00 990.00   Your hole cards 9 5       ryan1976 Fold     guernsey9 Fold     stubbs123 Fold     mrkennedy Call  100.00 250.00 3045.00 NColley Call  50.00 300.00 2280.00 JONONZIE Check     Flop    9 4 5       NColley Bet  100.00 400.00 2180.00 JONONZIE Call  100.00 500.00 890.00 mrkennedy Fold     Turn    4       NColley Bet  200.00 700.00 1980.00 JONONZIE All-in  890.00 1590.00 0.00 NColley Call  690.00 2280.00 1290.00 NColley Show 7 A    JONONZIE Show 9 5    River    A       NColley Win Two Pairs, Aces and 4s 2280.00  3570.00 PrevClose windowNext


  • edited February 2010
    u can sharkscope me all u want last time I checked I'd made a decent profit from MTTs.
  • edited February 2010



     LOL dont get your knickers in a twist Ncolley it does say NEARLY not all (check out the player in the full house that beat me) but you will find the majority of bad calls are from people who hope to hit, and because of this they are normaly loosing players the hands I posted just illustrate my own bad beats not bad play from other players I leave that to the viewing public I am of the belief that you pays your money and can do what you wish with your chips

  • edited February 2010
    sorry jonozie but if i flopped trip king s there would be now way i ever put the hand down....so you cant really say a lot about the play....i have got to admit that is unlucky,but he does have at least 7 outs on the turn....so if you were playing 6 handed,he has 7 out of 36 cards......roughly 20% or 1 in 5 times.....

    so if you show me 4 other Full house hands you have had,we can see if they have held up...

    regards
    toby

    ps am not on either side of this topic,just stating a fact...
  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
      another game tonight, last time I had full house and got rivered by a bigger full house this time i hit two pair and got rivered again by a bigger two pair!!!  wheres me tin foil hat!! Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance NColley Small blind   50.00 50.00 2330.00 JONONZIE Big blind   100.00 150.00 990.00   Your hole cards 9 5       ryan1976 Fold         guernsey9 Fold         stubbs123 Fold         mrkennedy Call   100.00 250.00 3045.00 NColley Call   50.00 300.00 2280.00 JONONZIE Check         Flop     9 4 5       NColley Bet   100.00 400.00 2180.00 JONONZIE Call   100.00 500.00 890.00 mrkennedy Fold         Turn     4       NColley Bet   200.00 700.00 1980.00 JONONZIE All-in   890.00 1590.00 0.00 NColley Call   690.00 2280.00 1290.00 NColley Show 7 A       JONONZIE Show 9 5       River     A       NColley Win Two Pairs, Aces and 4s 2280.00   3570.00 Prev Close window Next
    Posted by JONONZIE
    also just by looking at your play, you are very keen to get all your chips in....and again in this hand,he had flush outs +aces....not really that bad a beat then is it..?
  • edited February 2010
    biggest fekkin con job going is party poker,try that if you want 2 see FIX UP...random? my Rs
  • edited February 2010

    Thanks for your input djblack04 not sure where you got me saying this was a bad beat!  Far from it, The full house has 32 outs any pair above 5s (6-J=24) on turn and river plus 4 Aces 28 (or is that 14 because you need 2) or any one of his holdings (KQ) not sure how this equates percentage wise sure someone will let me know but you have to agree hitting a house on the flop you will want to get all your chips in whether its slow play or shove second hand if you look I was down to 10 BBs and with a possible flush draw on the flop I think it reasonable to push as i still had enough fold equity against the other players stack no bad beats here just bad luck which has been following me at the moment and as TK says if you’re in front get ya chips in!! I also would not disrespect anyone’s play  which is the beauty of this game you can play brilliantly and loose or play rubbish  hit everything and win and with tongue firmly in cheek as the start of this thread says                          SKY IS FIXED

  • edited February 2010
    Didn't mean to sound offended in my post, I do know what you mean, I used to check people who donked me on sharkscope and yes most of them were at the very least 1.5k in the red. But its pointless doing this, it probably used to tilt me a little too (omg I got knocked out by a donkey lol n all that stuff). Just move onto the next tournament and stick to your game.
  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
    Didn't mean to sound offended in my post, I do know what you mean, I used to check people who donked me on sharkscope and yes most of them were at the very least 1.5k in the red. But its pointless doing this, it probably used to tilt me a little too (omg I got knocked out by a donkey lol n all that stuff). Just move onto the next tournament and stick to your game.
    Posted by NColley
    Hi Ncolley no offence taken the post wasnt directed at you as i wouldent name a player (next time I post a hand I will delete the other players names lol)   but it is funny how different people play the same hand someone earlier on the post thought i got my money in a bit quick which i will take on board for futur plays thanks for getting back to me  good luck on the tables and i hope to play you again   
  • edited February 2010
    This one tops the lot....
    Dozza Small blind   20.00 20.00 7940.00
    jardy Big blind   40.00 60.00 7000.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • 10
         
    Dozza Call   20.00 80.00 7920.00
    jardy Raise   160.00 240.00 6840.00
    Dozza Call   160.00 400.00 7760.00
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 5
    • 10
         
    jardy All-in   6840.00 7240.00 0.00
    Dozza Call   6840.00 14080.00 920.00
    Dozza Show
    • K
    • 10
         
    jardy Show
    • 6
    • 6
         
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    River
       
    • 2
         
    jardy Win Full House, 6s and 10s 14080.00   14080.00
  • edited February 2010
    the bad beats on Sky really are worse than any other site in the entire world!
  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
    the bad beats on Sky really are worse than any other site in the entire world!
    Posted by Dozza
    If you really think that you should give up poker.
    If you can't cope with losing to a simple 2-outer you may not have the correct temperament for the game.
  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
    Thanks for your input djblack04 not sure where you got me saying this was a bad beat!   Far from it, The full house has 32 outs any pair above 5s (6-J=24) on turn and river plus 4 Aces 28 (or is that 14 because you need 2) or any one of his holdings (KQ) not sure how this equates percentage wise sure someone will let me know but you have to agree hitting a house on the flop you will want to get all your chips in whether its slow play or shove second hand if you look I was down to 10 BBs and with a possible flush draw on the flop I think it reasonable to push as i still had enough fold equity against the other players stack no bad beats here just bad luck which has been following me at the moment and as TK says if you’re in front get ya chips in!! I also would not disrespect anyone’s play   which is the beauty of this game you can play brilliantly and loose or play rubbish   hit everything and win and with tongue firmly in cheek as the start of this thread says                           SKY IS FIXED
    Posted by JONONZIE
    look m8 i think , you really need to study odds,and percentages,whilst you have had some bad luck,it aint that bad...i personally have lost 5 games on the trot to 1 and 2 outers...then i won the open.....similarly,i have taken an absolute beating on the 33 dyms then won 3 250 BH s in a row...also you cant expect to win everytime,even if you are 90% ahead...try looking at aspects of your game,for example raiseing rather than all in...
  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
    This one tops the lot.... Dozza Small blind   20.00 20.00 7940.00 jardy Big blind   40.00 60.00 7000.00   Your hole cards K 10       Dozza Call   20.00 80.00 7920.00 jardy Raise   160.00 240.00 6840.00 Dozza Call   160.00 400.00 7760.00 Flop     10 5 10       jardy All-in   6840.00 7240.00 0.00 Dozza Call   6840.00 14080.00 920.00 Dozza Show K 10       jardy Show 6 6       Turn     6       River     2       jardy Win Full House, 6s and 10s 14080.00   14080.00
    Posted by Dozza
    Dozza i feel 4 u,i myself have had my suspicions,and have tried to do all i can to prove one way or another,but even after many experiments , and i mean many,all i see is consistency...
    it does not matter if you slate the site,tell everyone they are rubbish,swear in the chat box,it makes no difference to the outcome of the games...i have proved the cashout curse is a load of rubbish,it is the same for everyone...
    also i notice that the hands you have posted are very hard to get away from....the flop of 10 10 something is hard to fold a pair of 6 s so it really depends on the strength of your opponent...if he aint great he will call...thus making losing players the ones more likely to call..

    i really and truely have gone to great lengths to try and prove the fact that it is fixed,but in all my experiments the only outcome seems to be that winning players in the long run will succeed...

    how do you think people manage to build large bankrolls?

    they play 10 hrs a day at 3+ tables....

    if you would like some coaching on your game to identify some leaks and or assist you with playing at these low levels i will happily give you some...

    regards toby
  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!! : look m8 i think , you really need to study odds,and percentages,whilst you have had some bad luck,it aint that bad...i personally have lost 5 games on the trot to 1 and 2 outers...then i won the open.....similarly,i have taken an absolute beating on the 33 dyms then won 3 250 BH s in a row...also you cant expect to win everytime,even if you are 90% ahead...try looking at aspects of your game,for example raiseing rather than all in...
    Posted by djblacke04
    thanks for you comment Toby i am all for learning where i am going wrong  and believe it or not i am a passive player!! and would like your input on the two hands I posted, what would you have done? In the first hand I did not go all in on the flop but as you advocate put in a raise i got re-raised which either put me all in or fold i guessed he had trip Kings but was probably well  ahead atthis point so an all in seemed the option to go with.
     The second hand I had 10 BBs left  blinds about to go up and hit two pair on the flop i still had fold equity and decided to shove but would very much appreciate your play in these hands and anyone else's play

    many thanks
  • edited February 2010
    i seen badbeats like yours on the final table of w.s.o.p.  so you see it happens everywhere not just here.
  • edited February 2010
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!!:
    In Response to Re: that's right folks....it's a MASSIVE FIX!!!! : thanks for you comment Toby i am all for learning where i am going wrong  and believe it or not i am a passive player!! and would like your input on the two hands I posted, what would you have done? In the first hand I did not go all in on the flop but as you advocate put in a raise i got re-raised which either put me all in or fold i guessed he had trip Kings but was probably well  ahead atthis point so an all in seemed the option to go with.  The second hand I had 10 BBs left  blinds about to go up and hit two pair on the flop i still had fold equity and decided to shove but would very much appreciate your play in these hands and anyone else's play many thanks
    Posted by JONONZIE
    the first hand,i dont think you could have done anything about,but the second playing 95 is never a great idea....
    just keep on playing,

    better players will not get into these situations ,you have to remember the stakes you are playing....

    the power of reraise is the best advice i can give....

    keep on plugging away,

    am still learning myself...every day...

    its all about consistency so even though you have posted two nasty hands...

    it does nt happen everytime....

    bad beats can get you down....

    but take them and give em...

    i like you used to be a passive player but all that ends up giving you is decisions,make other people decide and you ll get better......

    try and play fold or raise for a bit...no calling....

    regards
    toby
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