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JACKPOT SYNDICATE CHELMSFORD 13TH APRIL 2017 TRIAL RUN. (WOULDN'T DO THIS IN REALITY AS NOT ENOUGH C

edited April 2017 in Betting Chat
FYI, Chelmsford draw bias conclusions by www.drawbias.com are below: (Summary: No real bias)

"The racing press would have you believe that their is a large bias towards low drawn numbers at Chelmsford City, so much so that their are a large number of wide drawn runners which get mysterious late injuries and are withdrawn! The stats just don't back that up, and over 5,6 and 8f furlongs at Chelmsford City there doesn't appear to be much of a draw bias, which can be explained by the fact that Chelmsford is a wide racecourse with deep bends."

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  • edited April 2017
    Hi all. I'm etting to quite like doing these trial runs, so thought we'd have another go.

    Post here any thoughts and selections in the first six races at Chelmsford.

    Here is the "1st pass" spreadsheet. (Shortlisted selections in blue)

    We would have to whittle this down as currently it is 1,944 lines = £972.

    I am tempted to remove the drifting CURLEW RIVER from the 3.10PM.

    Would welcome suggestions of what I could "safely" get rid of in the 2.40, 4.10 and 4.40.

    Our "Banker" is POET'S WORLD in the 3.40PM

    DATE Sunday 13/04/2017 CHELMSFORD







    LEG/TIME HORSE R-POST ODDS OV NIGHT MORN LATEST
    2.10PM 01- NOGUCHI 9/2
    11/2 6/1
    2.10PM 02 – REGAL GAIT 6/4
    6/4 5/4
    2.10PM 03 – CAPE SPIRIT 6/1
    9/1 9/1
    2.10PM 04 – LADY EMMA 33/1
    40/1 40/1
    2.10PM 05 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A N/A
    2.10PM 06 – THE JUGGLER 7/2
    3/1 3/1
    2.10PM 07 – TED'S BROTHER 6/1
    10/1 10/1
    2.10PM 08 – BLUE VALENTINO 33/1
    40/1 50/1






    2.40PM 01 – HELFIRE 7/1
    7/1
    2.40PM 02 – SPACE WAR 5/1
    4/1
    2.40PM 03 – NOBLE ACT 14/1
    12/1
    2.40PM 04 – THE FIRM 14/1
    33/1
    2.40PM 05 – DANCE REBEL 16/1
    10/1
    2.40PM 06 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    2.40PM 07 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    2.40PM 08 – HIPZ 5/1
    11/2
    2.40PM 09 – JACK THE LAIRD 5/1
    5/1
    2.40PM 10 – SECRET LIGHTNING 13/2
    10/1
    2.40PM 11 – ISNTSHESOMETHING 7/2
    11/2






    3.10PM 01 – CURLEW RIVER 9/4
    4/1
    3.10PM 02 – FIENDISH 2/1
    5/2
    3.10PM 03 – LUNA MAGIC 20/1
    66/1
    3.10PM 04 – PIAFF 14/1
    33/1
    3.10PM 05 – PURE SHOES 15/8
    10/11






    3.40PM 01 – FIRE FIGHTING 6/1
    7/1
    3.40PM 02 – ROCKSPIRIT 3/1
    11/2
    3.40PM 03 – POET'S WORLD 9/4
    5/6
    3.40PM 04 – PACTOLUS 6/1
    16/1
    3.40PM 05 – DIANA LADY 33/1
    100/1
    3.40PM 06 – QAFFAAL 8/1
    17/2
    3.40PM 07 – INTRUDE 14/1
    20/1
    3.40PM 08 – ICE ROYAL 14/1
    33/1
    3.40PM 09 – BROROCCO 14/1
    25/1






    4.10PM 01 – FAST AND HOT 5/1
    5/1
    4.10PM 02 – MY MO 16/1
    7/1
    4.10PM 03 – ESTRELLA ERIA 11/4
    10/3
    4.10PM 04 – FALSE ID 10/1
    13/2
    4.10PM 05 – THE GINGER BURY 8/1
    12/1
    4.10PM 06 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    4.10PM 07 – LAWMAN'S JUSTICE 16/1
    40/1
    4.10PM 08 – CHELABELLA 25/1
    20/1
    4.10PM 09 – HANNINGTON 5/1
    11/2
    4.10PM 10 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    4.10PM 11 – EINSTEIN 20/1
    14/1
    4.10PM 12 – OUTLAW TORN 12/1
    14/1
    4.10PM 13 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A






    4.40PM 01 – FRANK THE BARBER 6/1
    4/1
    4.40PM 02 – MIGHTY ZIP 11/2
    13/2
    4.40PM 03 – LOUMARIN 8/1
    9/1
    4.40PM 04 – AUTUMN TONIC 10/1
    10/1
    4.40PM 05 – SECRET CLAUSE 25/1
    14/1
    4.40PM 06 – QUALITY ART 4/1
    6/1
    4.40PM 07 – TASSABOQ 8/1
    9/1
    4.40PM 08 – ROY'S LEGACY 8/1
    8/1
    4.40PM 09 – FUEL INJECTION 16/1
    10/1
    4.40PM 10 – HURRICANE ALERT 14/1
    40/1
    4.40PM 11 – CAMINO 7/1
    16/1
    4.40PM 12 – BARNSDALE 33/1
    100/1

    Cheers,

    G


  • edited April 2017
    OK, I have removed, Curlew River, Quality Art, Secret Clause, Einstein and Isn't She Something, so the final perm looks like this:

    It is 700 lines and would have cost £350:
    DATE Thursday 13/04/2017 CHELMSFORD







    LEG/TIME HORSE R-POST ODDS OV NIGHT MORN LATEST
    2.10PM 01- NOGUCHI 9/2
    11/2 6/1
    2.10PM 02 – REGAL GAIT 6/4
    6/4 5/4
    2.10PM 03 – CAPE SPIRIT 6/1
    9/1 9/1
    2.10PM 04 – LADY EMMA 33/1
    40/1 40/1
    2.10PM 05 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A N/A
    2.10PM 06 – THE JUGGLER 7/2
    3/1 3/1
    2.10PM 07 – TED'S BROTHER 6/1
    10/1 10/1
    2.10PM 08 – BLUE VALENTINO 33/1
    40/1 50/1






    2.40PM 01 – HELFIRE 7/1
    7/1
    2.40PM 02 – SPACE WAR 5/1
    4/1
    2.40PM 03 – NOBLE ACT 14/1
    12/1
    2.40PM 04 – THE FIRM 14/1
    33/1
    2.40PM 05 – DANCE REBEL 16/1
    10/1
    2.40PM 06 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    2.40PM 07 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    2.40PM 08 – HIPZ 5/1
    11/2
    2.40PM 09 – JACK THE LAIRD 5/1
    5/1
    2.40PM 10 – SECRET LIGHTNING 13/2
    10/1
    2.40PM 11 – ISNTSHESOMETHING 7/2
    11/2






    3.10PM 01 – CURLEW RIVER 9/4
    4/1
    3.10PM 02 – FIENDISH 2/1
    5/2
    3.10PM 03 – LUNA MAGIC 20/1
    66/1
    3.10PM 04 – PIAFF 14/1
    33/1
    3.10PM 05 – PURE SHORES 15/8
    10/11






    3.40PM 01 – FIRE FIGHTING 6/1
    7/1
    3.40PM 02 – ROCKSPIRIT 3/1
    11/2
    3.40PM 03 – POET'S WORLD 9/4
    5/6
    3.40PM 04 – PACTOLUS 6/1
    16/1
    3.40PM 05 – DIANA LADY 33/1
    100/1
    3.40PM 06 – QAFFAAL 8/1
    17/2
    3.40PM 07 – INTRUDE 14/1
    20/1
    3.40PM 08 – ICE ROYAL 14/1
    33/1
    3.40PM 09 – BROROCCO 14/1
    25/1






    4.10PM 01 – FAST AND HOT 5/1
    5/1
    4.10PM 02 – MY MO 16/1
    7/1
    4.10PM 03 – ESTRELLA ERIA 11/4
    10/3
    4.10PM 04 – FALSE ID 10/1
    13/2
    4.10PM 05 – THE GINGER BURY 8/1
    12/1
    4.10PM 06 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    4.10PM 07 – LAWMAN'S JUSTICE 16/1
    40/1
    4.10PM 08 – CHELABELLA 25/1
    20/1
    4.10PM 09 – HANNINGTON 5/1
    11/2
    4.10PM 10 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    4.10PM 11 – EINSTEIN 20/1
    14/1
    4.10PM 12 – OUTLAW TORN 12/1
    14/1
    4.10PM 13 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A






    4.40PM 01 – FRANK THE BARBER 6/1
    4/1
    4.40PM 02 – MIGHTY ZIP 11/2
    13/2
    4.40PM 03 – LOUMARIN 8/1
    9/1
    4.40PM 04 – AUTUMN TONIC 10/1
    10/1
    4.40PM 05 – SECRET CLAUSE 25/1
    14/1
    4.40PM 06 – QUALITY ART 4/1
    6/1
    4.40PM 07 – TASSABOQ 8/1
    9/1
    4.40PM 08 – ROY'S LEGACY 8/1
    8/1
    4.40PM 09 – FUEL INJECTION 16/1
    10/1
    4.40PM 10 – HURRICANE ALERT 14/1
    40/1
    4.40PM 11 – CAMINO 7/1
    16/1
    4.40PM 12 – BARNSDALE 33/1
    100/1
    END
  • edited April 2017
    Added Noguchi in 1st due to late support
  • edited April 2017
    Added Noguchi in 1st
    DATE Thursday 13/04/2017 CHELMSFORD







    LEG/TIME HORSE R-POST ODDS OV NIGHT MORN LATEST
    2.10PM 01- NOGUCHI 9/2
    11/2 6/1
    2.10PM 02 – REGAL GAIT 6/4
    6/4 5/4
    2.10PM 03 – CAPE SPIRIT 6/1
    9/1 9/1
    2.10PM 04 – LADY EMMA 33/1
    40/1 40/1
    2.10PM 05 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A N/A
    2.10PM 06 – THE JUGGLER 7/2
    3/1 3/1
    2.10PM 07 – TED'S BROTHER 6/1
    10/1 10/1
    2.10PM 08 – BLUE VALENTINO 33/1
    40/1 50/1






    2.40PM 01 – HELFIRE 7/1
    7/1
    2.40PM 02 – SPACE WAR 5/1
    4/1
    2.40PM 03 – NOBLE ACT 14/1
    12/1
    2.40PM 04 – THE FIRM 14/1
    33/1
    2.40PM 05 – DANCE REBEL 16/1
    10/1
    2.40PM 06 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    2.40PM 07 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    2.40PM 08 – HIPZ 5/1
    11/2
    2.40PM 09 – JACK THE LAIRD 5/1
    5/1
    2.40PM 10 – SECRET LIGHTNING 13/2
    10/1
    2.40PM 11 – ISNTSHESOMETHING 7/2
    11/2






    3.10PM 01 – CURLEW RIVER 9/4
    4/1
    3.10PM 02 – FIENDISH 2/1
    5/2
    3.10PM 03 – LUNA MAGIC 20/1
    66/1
    3.10PM 04 – PIAFF 14/1
    33/1
    3.10PM 05 – PURE SHORES 15/8
    10/11






    3.40PM 01 – FIRE FIGHTING 6/1
    7/1
    3.40PM 02 – ROCKSPIRIT 3/1
    11/2
    3.40PM 03 – POET'S WORLD 9/4
    5/6
    3.40PM 04 – PACTOLUS 6/1
    16/1
    3.40PM 05 – DIANA LADY 33/1
    100/1
    3.40PM 06 – QAFFAAL 8/1
    17/2
    3.40PM 07 – INTRUDE 14/1
    20/1
    3.40PM 08 – ICE ROYAL 14/1
    33/1
    3.40PM 09 – BROROCCO 14/1
    25/1






    4.10PM 01 – FAST AND HOT 5/1
    5/1
    4.10PM 02 – MY MO 16/1
    7/1
    4.10PM 03 – ESTRELLA ERIA 11/4
    10/3
    4.10PM 04 – FALSE ID 10/1
    13/2
    4.10PM 05 – THE GINGER BURY 8/1
    12/1
    4.10PM 06 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    4.10PM 07 – LAWMAN'S JUSTICE 16/1
    40/1
    4.10PM 08 – CHELABELLA 25/1
    20/1
    4.10PM 09 – HANNINGTON 5/1
    11/2
    4.10PM 10 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A
    4.10PM 11 – EINSTEIN 20/1
    14/1
    4.10PM 12 – OUTLAW TORN 12/1
    14/1
    4.10PM 13 – NON RUNNER NON RUNNER N/A






    4.40PM 01 – FRANK THE BARBER 6/1
    4/1
    4.40PM 02 – MIGHTY ZIP 11/2
    13/2
    4.40PM 03 – LOUMARIN 8/1
    9/1
    4.40PM 04 – AUTUMN TONIC 10/1
    10/1
    4.40PM 05 – SECRET CLAUSE 25/1
    14/1
    4.40PM 06 – QUALITY ART 4/1
    6/1
    4.40PM 07 – TASSABOQ 8/1
    9/1
    4.40PM 08 – ROY'S LEGACY 8/1
    8/1
    4.40PM 09 – FUEL INJECTION 16/1
    10/1
    4.40PM 10 – HURRICANE ALERT 14/1
    40/1
    4.40PM 11 – CAMINO 7/1
    16/1
    4.40PM 12 – BARNSDALE 33/1
    100/1
    END
  • edited April 2017

    After putting in the effort to do this, I did decide to have a cheeky reduced perm for myself.

    Obviously I couldn't cover all the "would be" selections, but here is my bet anyway:

    You have made the following selections. Please confirm to place bet.

    Meeting:  Jackpot
    Your selections: Leg 1:14:10Regal Gait (2)
    Leg 2:14:40Space War (2)
    Leg 2:14:40Hipz (8)
    Leg 2:14:40Jack The Laird (9)
    Leg 3:15:10Fiendish (2)
    Leg 3:15:10Pure Shores (5)
    Leg 4:15:40Poet's Word (3)
    Leg 5:16:10Fast And Hot (1)
    Leg 5:16:10My Mo (2)
    Leg 5:16:10Estrella Eria (3)
    Leg 5:16:10Hannington (9)
    Leg 6:16:40Frank The Barber (1)
    Leg 6:16:40Mighty Zip (2)
    Leg 6:16:40Roy's Legacy (8)

    BET RECEIPT:

    Click here if you are searching for transactions on your account prior to 22nd April 2015.

    My Summary
    DateDescriptionSelectionAmount
    DateBet RefW/P/S StakeBet TypeEvent / MarketSelectionHcpPriceResultStatusTotal StakeReturn
    13/04/17 2:03:40 PM 2771829/3033080 Jackpot - Pick 614:102 - Regal Gait0 OpenO£36.00£0.00
       Jackpot2 - Space War0 Open   
       Jackpot8 - Hipz0 Open   
       Jackpot9 - Jack The Laird0 Open   
       Jackpot2 - Fiendish0 Open   
       Jackpot5 - Pure Shores0 Open   
       Jackpot3 - Poet's Word0 Open   
       Jackpot1 - Fast And Hot0 Open   
       Jackpot2 - My Mo0 Open   
       Jackpot3 - Estrella Eria0 Open   
       Jackpot9 - Hannington0 Open   
       Jackpot1 - Frank The Barber0 Open   
       Jackpot2 - Mighty Zip0 Open   
       Jackpot8 - Roy's Legacy0 Open
  • edited April 2017



    Good start.

    I have Secret Lightning in the 2.40 & Qaffaal in the 3.40 in a e/w L15.
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: JACKPOT SYNDICATE CHELMSFORD 13TH APRIL 2017 TRIAL RUN. (WOULDN'T DO THIS IN REALITY AS NOT ENOUGH CARRY OVER) BUT LETS HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT ANYWAY:
    Good start. I have Secret Lightning in the 2.40 & Qaffaal in the 3.40 in a e/w L15.
    Posted by MAXALLY
    Best of luck!

    2,890.84 UNITS going on to leg two. (36 of them mine)

    The "Would Be" Syndicate perm has:
    2.40PM 01 – HELFIRE 7/1
    7/1
    2.40PM 02 – SPACE WAR 5/1
    4/1
    2.40PM 05 – DANCE REBEL 16/1
    10/1
    2.40PM 08 – HIPZ 5/1
    11/2
    2.40PM 09 – JACK THE LAIRD 5/1
    5/1
    I have:
    2.40PM 02 – SPACE WAR 5/1
    4/1
    2.40PM 08 – HIPZ 5/1
    11/2
    2.40PM 09 – JACK THE LAIRD 5/1
    5/1

    END
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: JACKPOT SYNDICATE CHELMSFORD 13TH APRIL 2017 TRIAL RUN. (WOULDN'T DO THIS IN REALITY AS NOT ENOUGH CARRY OVER) BUT LETS HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT ANYWAY:
    Good start. I have Secret Lightning in the 2.40 & Qaffaal in the 3.40 in a e/w L15.
    Posted by MAXALLY
    FYI, the syndicate doesn't have Secret Lightening.
     
    But in reality if you post on the thread, well before the off of the first, we would put it in, unless I had a real strong objection to it, which I don't, as it is a horse that fits in with the over all statistical strategy.

    I omitted it because it was a drifter, but only a slight one, so a marginal decision to exclude it. GL anyhow!

    Cheers,

    G
  • edited April 2017
    HIPZ wins.

    219 UNITS going on to leg three. (12 of them mine)

    In LEG3, the "would be" Syndicate perm has:
    3.10PM 02 – FIENDISH 2/1
    5/2
    3.10PM 05 – PURE SHORES 15/8
    10/11

    I have:
    3.10PM 02 – FIENDISH 2/1
    5/2
    3.10PM 05 – PURE SHORES 15/8
    10/11
    BUT WILL EXCLUDING CURLEW RIVER TO REDUCE THE PERM SIZE COME BACK AND BITE US?

    We shall see. :=)
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: JACKPOT SYNDICATE CHELMSFORD 13TH APRIL 2017 TRIAL RUN. (WOULDN'T DO THIS IN REALITY AS NOT ENOUGH CARRY OVER) BUT LETS HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT ANYWAY:
    HIPZ wins. 219 UNITS going on to leg three. (12 of them mine) In LEG3, the "would be" Syndicate perm has: 3.10PM 02 – FIENDISH 2/1 5/2 3.10PM 05 – PURE SHORES 15/8 10/11 I have: 3.10PM 02 – FIENDISH 2/1 5/2 3.10PM 05 – PURE SHORES 15/8 10/11           BUT WILL EXCLUDING CURLEW RIVER TO REDUCE THE PERM SIZE COME BACK AND BITE US? We shall see. :=)
    Posted by StayOrGo
    And that proved to be the case, will be interesting to see how our wider perm on the opening post would have got on.
  • edited April 2017
    I kinda hope this banker loses in a way :=(
  • edited April 2017
    Banker POET'S WORLD wins. 13 UNITS left going in to LEG5
  • edited April 2017


    Unlucky mate. Didn't see thread till late, hence no input. Even though, I will only be an investor in the real one and leave the picking to the experts. However, just be careful of too many cooks spoiling the broth and all that ;)

    Another banker in though.....and another interesting sweat with this trial run.
  • edited April 2017
    We would still be in, in the wide perm on the opening post, and our runners in the 5th leg would be:

     
    4.10PM 01 – FAST AND HOT 5/1
    5/1
    4.10PM 02 – MY MO 16/1
    7/1
    4.10PM 03 – ESTRELLA ERIA 11/4
    10/3
    4.10PM 04 – FALSE ID 10/1
    13/2
    4.10PM 09 – HANNINGTON 5/1
    11/2
    4.10PM 11 – EINSTEIN 20/1
    14/1

    END
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: JACKPOT SYNDICATE CHELMSFORD 13TH APRIL 2017 TRIAL RUN. (WOULDN'T DO THIS IN REALITY AS NOT ENOUGH CARRY OVER) BUT LETS HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT ANYWAY:
    Unlucky mate. Didn't see thread till late, hence no input. Even though, I will only be an investor in the real one and leave the picking to the experts. However, just be careful of too many cooks spoiling the broth and all that ;) Another banker in though.....and another interesting sweat with this trial run.
    Posted by MAXALLY
    Yes, there can be a danger of this, although it would still be nice to have input from people that want to. I will make sure, however, that the selections used, DO fit in with the over all strategy.

    Cheers,

    G
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: JACKPOT SYNDICATE CHELMSFORD 13TH APRIL 2017 TRIAL RUN. (WOULDN'T DO THIS IN REALITY AS NOT ENOUGH CARRY OVER) BUT LETS HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT ANYWAY:
    We would still be in, in the wide perm on the opening post, and our runners in the 5th leg would be:   4.10PM 01 – FAST AND HOT 5/1 5/1 4.10PM 02 – MY MO 16/1 7/1 4.10PM 03 – ESTRELLA ERIA 11/4 10/3 4.10PM 04 – FALSE ID 10/1 13/2 4.10PM 09 – HANNINGTON 5/1 11/2 4.10PM 11 – EINSTEIN 20/1 14/1 END
    Posted by StayOrGo
    Had at least the first 4 home here, maybe more.

    Would be kinda gutting if my actual £36 reduced perm Jackpot only fails because of my late removal of Curlew River. :=(

    4 winners out of 5. With 2nd and 3rd in the leg I missed out on after reluctantly removing winner to reduce perm size.

    Advocates the need for a Syndicate really. :=)
  • edited April 2017
    The "wide perm" on the opening post is very wide in the last, and we'd be on all of these:
    4.40PM 01 – FRANK THE BARBER 6/1
    4/1
    4.40PM 02 – MIGHTY ZIP 11/2
    13/2
    4.40PM 03 – LOUMARIN 8/1
    9/1
    4.40PM 04 – AUTUMN TONIC 10/1
    10/1
    4.40PM 05 – SECRET CLAUSE 25/1
    14/1
    4.40PM 06 – QUALITY ART 4/1
    6/1
    4.40PM 07 – TASSABOQ 8/1
    9/1
    4.40PM 08 – ROY'S LEGACY 8/1
    8/1
    4.40PM 09 – FUEL INJECTION 16/1
    10/1
    My actual real money reduced perm had Frank The Barber, Mighty Zip and Roy's Legacy in.

    Kinda hope one of those doesn't win now.

    G
  • edited April 2017
    NO!

    Roy's Legacy wins at 12/1. My last minute omission in LEG3, cost me a return of £5K for my £36.00 stake.

    The Jackpot was part won to just half a UNIT or 50p. Dividend was guaranteed at 10K, I believe.

    As you will see from the opening post, our wider perm would have been successful.

    Gutted!

    But happy with the strategy.
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: JACKPOT SYNDICATE CHELMSFORD 13TH APRIL 2017 TRIAL RUN. (WOULDN'T DO THIS IN REALITY AS NOT ENOUGH CARRY OVER) BUT LETS HAVE SOME FUN WITH IT ANYWAY:
    NO! Roy's Legacy wins at 12/1. My last minute omission in LEG3, cost me £5K The Jackpot was part won to just half a UNIT or 50p. Dividend will be 10K, I believe. As you will see from the opening post, I wider perm would have been successful. Gutted! But happy with the strategy.
    Posted by StayOrGo

    OUCH. Still another good effort though.
  • edited April 2017
    This is a great read will follow with interest, only wish I could afford to join but cannot unfortunately at this present time .

    All the best of luck to you all with this when you go live.
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