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Hand advice please

edited April 2017 in The Poker Clinic
Hi All,

Not normally my thing so here goes.. Redacted to protect the identities of the criminals involved. I know it's easy to judge in hindsight but this just happened to me in the main event. How would you of played it differently, please be kind! :) Had about 40bb if I remember correctly. 

Player

Action

Cards

Amount

Pot

Balance

Metal_Dude

Small blind

 

75.00

75.00

5100.00

A

Big blind

 

150.00

225.00

7526.25

 

Your hole cards

· K

· A

 

 

 

B

Raise

 

300.00

525.00

3982.50

C

Fold

 

 

 

 

D

Fold

 

 

 

 

E

Fold

 

 

 

 

Metal_Dude

Call

 

225.00

750.00

4875.00

A

Fold

 

 

 

 

Flop

 

 

· K

· 8

· 9

 

 

 

Metal_Dude

Check

 

 

 

 

B

Bet

 

450.00

1200.00

3532.50

Metal_Dude

Call

 

450.00

1650.00

4425.00

Turn

 

 

· 7

 

 

 

Metal_Dude

Check

 

 

 

 

B

Check

 

 

 

 

River

 

 

· 6

 

 

 

Metal_Dude

Bet

 

1237.50

2887.50

3187.50

B

All-in

 

3532.50

6420.00

0.00

Metal_Dude

Call

 

2295.00

8715.00

892.50

 

 

 

 

 

 

Metal_Dude

Show

· K

· A

 

 

 

B

Show

· 10

· Q

 

 

 

B

Win

Straight to the 10

8715.00

 

8715.00



Comments

  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Hand advice please:
    Hi All, Not normally my thing so here goes.. Redacted to protect the identities of the criminals involved. I know it's easy to judge in hindsight but this just happened to me in the main event. How would you of played it differently, please be kind! :) Had about 40bb if I remember correctly.  Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Metal_Dude Small blind   75.00 75.00 5100.00 A Big blind   150.00 225.00 7526.25   Your hole cards ·  K ·  A       B Raise   300.00 525.00 3982.50 C Fold         D Fold         E Fold         Metal_Dude Call   225.00 750.00 4875.00 A Fold         Flop     ·  K ·  8 ·  9       Metal_Dude Check         B Bet   450.00 1200.00 3532.50 Metal_Dude Call   450.00 1650.00 4425.00 Turn     ·  7       Metal_Dude Check         B Check         River     ·  6       Metal_Dude Bet   1237.50 2887.50 3187.50 B All-in   3532.50 6420.00 0.00 Metal_Dude Call   2295.00 8715.00 892.50             Metal_Dude Show ·  K ·  A       B Show ·  10 ·  Q       B Win Straight to the 10 8715.00   8715.00
    Posted by Metal_Dude
    I am not expert but this seems like a cooler. With the villan only having 20 something big blinds i would 3 bet get it in pre flop probably. Apart from this i would do exactly the same as you. The river shove is large but i still imagine he would do this with lots of hands you beat. If he was a really tight player then maybe you could hero fold but its hard with top pair top kicker. 
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Hand advice please:
    Hi All, Not normally my thing so here goes.. Redacted to protect the identities of the criminals involved. I know it's easy to judge in hindsight but this just happened to me in the main event. How would you of played it differently, please be kind! :) Had about 40bb if I remember correctly.  Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Metal_Dude Small blind   75.00 75.00 5100.00 A Big blind   150.00 225.00 7526.25   Your hole cards ·  K ·  A       B Raise   300.00 525.00 3982.50 C Fold         D Fold         E Fold         Metal_Dude Call   225.00 750.00 4875.00 A Fold         Flop     ·  K ·  8 ·  9       Metal_Dude Check         B Bet   450.00 1200.00 3532.50 Metal_Dude Call   450.00 1650.00 4425.00 Turn     ·  7       Metal_Dude Check         B Check         River     ·  6       Metal_Dude Bet   1237.50 2887.50 3187.50 B All-in   3532.50 6420.00 0.00 Metal_Dude Call   2295.00 8715.00 892.50             Metal_Dude Show ·  K ·  A       B Show ·  10 ·  Q       B Win Straight to the 10 8715.00   8715.00
    Posted by Metal_Dude
    I am not expert but this seems like a cooler. With the villan only having 20 something big blinds i would 3 bet get it in pre flop probably. Apart from this i would do exactly the same as you. The river shove is large but i still imagine he would do this with lots of hands you beat. If he was a really tight player then maybe you could hero fold but its hard with top pair top kicker. 
  • edited April 2017
    Bet/ calling river seems too thin to me given the board runout. Looks like he either has a ten or he is pretending too have one and I wouldn't expect many people to bluff considering the size of your lead and the relatively small amount left behind.
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: Hand advice please:
    In Response to Hand advice please : I am not expert but this seems like a cooler. With the villan only having 20 something big blinds i would 3 bet get it in pre flop probably. Apart from this i would do exactly the same as you. The river shove is large but i still imagine he would do this with lots of hands you beat. If he was a really tight player then maybe you could hero fold but its hard with top pair top kicker. 
    Posted by Summers119

    The river shove isn't actually that large and TPTK just shrinks completely on that board after that run out. We don't even beat KT now so we literally only beat KJ and KQ, yet are beaten by a whole range of 2pair combos, sets and straights. The straight is very clear and the villain doesn't seem concerned by this.

    Leading river seems too thin and leaves us in a bit of a tizz if they come back over us. Can't imagine even the most aggro/loose/bad players would jam KQ/KJ with not much fold equity on such an obviously dangerous board.

    Bet/calling the river seems the worst option, bet/folding, check/calling and check/folding are much more appealing to varying degrees.

    Agree about 3betting pre.
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: Hand advice please:
    In Response to Re: Hand advice please : The river shove isn't actually that large and TPTK just shrinks completely on that board after that run out. We don't even beat KT now so we literally only beat KJ and KQ, yet are beaten by a whole range of 2pair combos, sets and straights. The straight is very clear and the villain doesn't seem concerned by this. Leading river seems too thin and leaves us in a bit of a tizz if they come back over us. Can't imagine even the most aggro/loose/bad players would jam KQ/KJ with not much fold equity on such an obviously dangerous board. Bet/calling the river seems the worst option, bet/folding, check/calling and check/folding are much more appealing to varying degrees. Agree about 3betting pre.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Tbh i didnt see it was 4 to a straight. Yeah I think just getting AK in earlier was the play and now I see it AK is a fold on the river, unless the player is super aggro then maybe you could call. 
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: Hand advice please:
    In Response to Re: Hand advice please : Tbh i didnt see it was 4 to a straight. Yeah I think just getting AK in earlier was the play and now I see it AK is a fold on the river, unless the player is super aggro then maybe you could call. 
    Posted by Summers119
    Cheers to all that responded. I can see things a bit clearer now, you'd be suprised how loose/agg people are on the £3/£5/£10 s&gs. All advice taken on board, thanks! 
  • edited April 2017
    In Response to Re: Hand advice please:
    In Response to Re: Hand advice please : Tbh i didnt see it was 4 to a straight. Yeah I think just getting AK in earlier was the play and now I see it AK is a fold on the river, unless the player is super aggro then maybe you could call. 
    Posted by Summers119
    Cheers to all that responded. I can see things a bit clearer now, you'd be suprised how loose/agg people are on the £3/£5/£10 s&gs. All advice taken on board, thanks! 
  • edited April 2017
    Hi
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    I think 3betting pre is standard here. Particularly as we're in the sb and so going to be out of position for the whole hand. I like your play on flop and turn.
    On the river, what hands are we trying to seek value from when we lead out?
  • edited April 2017
    Agree with others regarding 3 betting pre and river being a clear check fold.

    1 thing that hasnt been mentioned is the flop play i think as played after flatting pre its pretty bad to not raise the flop to get in now.  Were pretty underrepped flatting pre and can get it in good vs qk and kj if hes cbetting qs, js and 10s he can put you on a draw given how wet and connected the board is. Theres so many turn cards in the deck that will make him slow down on the turn. Its going to be very difficult getting a lot of money in on turns and rivers.
  • edited April 2017
    3 bet pre makes life alot easier here
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