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Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
markycash | Small blind | 250.00 | 250.00 | 7033.76 | |
BB | Big blind | 500.00 | 750.00 | 16967.00 | |
| Your hole cards | · J Spades · K Clubs |
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Player1 | Fold | ||||
Player2 | Fold | ||||
Player3 | Fold | ||||
markycash | Call | 250.00 | 1000.00 | 6783.76 | |
BB | Check | ||||
Flop | |||||
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| · 6 Diamonds · 5 Hearts · Q Diamonds |
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markycash | Bet | 500.00 | 1500.00 | 6283.76 | |
BB | Call | 500.00 | 2000.00 | 16467.00 | |
Turn | |||||
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| · J Clubs |
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markycash | Bet | 500.00 | 2500.00 | 5783.76 | |
BB | Call | 500.00 | 3000.00 | 15967.00 | |
River | |||||
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| · 7 Hearts |
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markycash | Check | ||||
BB | All-in | 15967.00 | 18967.00 | 0.00 |
Comments
Tough spot on the river, naturally ranges are so much wider when villian has seen a pot for free from the BB so whereas normally we might be able to rule them out, here he can have every single value hand pretty much, Q5, Q6, Q7, 55, 66, 77, even J5, J6, J7 and 34. How many of these he jams 2x pot with I don't know.
Personally I lean towards a fold unless I had some history/knowledge of him being capable of doing this as a bluff (cos very few players are)
2 - Information. I will happily fold if I believe my opponent, even if I hit but believe I am behind. I will also happily reraise with or without hitting if the situation dictates this.
I know we are OOP in the SB but we only have 1 player to contend with and are invested. I love little pots like this were we can get a dialogue going through the action. I mean we hopefully have info on the BB's playing style if we have been observing him. We hopefully have an idea of how he reacts to limps from the SB and what kind of cards he reacts with if we have been limping previously. Therefore just the BB check when we limp gives information. How he reacts to the lead gives us even more.
I also find a a decent amount of players get completely p1ssed off by the SB limps and try to defend the BB too much and you can draw mistakes quite often. I also prefer if possible to play small pots like this than having to win flips all over the place. Granted there does eventually come the time when we need to take on flips and I will vary my play and take flips on etc (mostly based on my and any potential opponent's stacks though).
I am quite aware that my style might be unorthodox and a few people with shove/fold charts etc may be face palming themselves at certain plays I would make but I try to vary my play and be unpredictable in general and it is just my personal style.
As to how I would react to a BB reraise preflop etc, this will depend on exact reads, stacks, hand strength etc. If a player 'won't tolerate' the limps then it is obviously the aim to find a big hand that is ahead of his 'not tolerating your SB limps so I will shove range'. If they do tolerate it then I try to do as above.
Really good questions!
I am limping a very balanced range when I do this otherwise it would obviously be leaky. There was one hand in one of the later £110 UKOPS games where I was trying to limp my usual semi-wide but balanced range from the SB versus a strong reg in the BB. He was having none of it and shoving/raising almost every time. I then am dealt ATo and limp in fully expecting the shove for 20BBs @ 500-1000 level. As expected the shove comes with 34s and we hold to get the stack to be right back in the game.
I will usually have a general plan too although this can change as you say based upon sizing and whether we see the flop and the texture etc etc.
I will paste it below but I am not sure if the suits are showing. I think he was off-suit and no flush draws landed.
With this type of hand I think the villains range is utterly polarised. I don't feel he is doing this with any middling hands, he either has stumbled onto some funky big hand (entirely possible) or has nothing IMO. The bet was just so big that it screamed 'go away' please do not call. If he has middling hands he may want a little bit of action.
A fair point was made questioning the line and especially the check on the river as it was almost inducing. Sure, if he acts we have a decision to make, but do we not maximum value from the hand? I had the feeling he had a very weak hand, probably one with no showdown value so if I lead he is probably folding. We also don't have a bad hand, relatively speaking in a HU pot. The check on the river was fully intended to induce a bet which I intended to snap call, I just wasn't expecting a 2xpot bet.
Anyways I just did not feel it added up, many draws had missed and I had notes questioning some of his plays so went with the call and opponent had the 24 and a missed gutshot. I don't make these calls often, I remember the last similar one I made in one of the Vegas mission freerolls where the villain shoved 200 BBs on the flop and we were good with top pair decent kicker and held. On both occasions I felt I had a semi-strong read.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
markycash
Small blind
250.00
250.00
7033.76
BB
Big blind
500.00
750.00
16967.00
Your hole cards
· J
· K
Player1
Fold
Player2
Fold
Player3
Fold
markycash
Call
250.00
1000.00
6783.76
BB
Check
Flop
· 6
· 5
· Q
markycash
Bet
500.00
1500.00
6283.76
BB
Call
500.00
2000.00
16467.00
Turn
· J
markycash
Bet
500.00
2500.00
5783.76
BB
Call
500.00
3000.00
15967.00
River
· 7
markycash
Check
BB
All-in
15967.00
18967.00
0.00
markycash
All-in
5783.76
24750.76
0.00
BB
Unmatched bet
10183.24
14567.52
10183.24
markycash
Show
· J
· K
BB
Show
· 2
· 4
markycash
Win
Pair of Jacks
14567.52
14567.52