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REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017)

StayOrGoStayOrGo
edited May 2017 in Betting Chat
As is the norm I will not take part in the removals, but I would add Canny Kool for consideration in the last.

SL "Canny Kool was headed in the closing stages over 6f here in August and has a shout on that form if allowed his own way in front."

RP "Absent since a poor run last June but worth checking the level of market confidence on return; looks interesting on 2015 form, notably his second in a good-ground Listed race here, and has the plum draw today."
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    Hi guys, please remove 12.

    I have narrowed it down quite a bit, maybe too much, so if you want me to put any back in, please let me know ASAP.

     

    		FRIDAY 12/5/2017 FLAT











    LEG/TIME HORSE DRAW R-POST ODDS OV NIGHT MORN LATEST RES
    LEG ONE






    1.50PM 7f LD FR 01 – HILLBILLY BOY 11 10/1
    		12/1 12/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 02 - RENE MATHIS 5 6/1 NON RUN N/A
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 03 - SOUND ADVICE 8 8/1
    		11/1 11/1 1ST
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 04 - ICE SLICE 4 10/1
    		15/2 15/2 3RD
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 05 - GABRIAL'S KAKA 3 10/1
    		10/1 10/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 06 - LAT HAWILL 12 14/1
    		20/1 20/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 07 - INTRANSIGENT 9 14/1
    		12/1 12/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 08 - FUWAIRT 13 16/1
    		16/1 16/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 09 - EL HAYEM 2 5/2
    		15/8 15/8 2ND
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 10 - CALDER PRINCE 14 12/1
    		14/1 14/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 11 - MICHELLE STROGOFF 1 14/1
    		14/1 14/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 12 - TRIBAL PATH 10 25/1
    		33/1 33/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 13 - GRAND INQUISITOR 7 25/1
    		28/1 28/1
    1.50PM 7f LD FR 14 – CALL OUT LOUD 6 14/1 NON RUN N/A
    LEG TWO






    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 01 - AL HAMDANY 9 33/1
    		40/1 40/1
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 02 - APEX KING 2 25/1 NON RUN N/A
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 03 - BAY OF POETS 1 7/1
    		6/1 6/1 2ND
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 04 - CLIFFS OF MOHER 7 4/6
    		4/6 4/6 1ST
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 05 - FUJAIRA BRIDGE 5 25/1
    		28/1 28/1
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 06 - MAJESTE 3 25/1
    		40/1 40/1
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 07 - MAX ZORIN 8 33/1
    		40/1 40/1 3RD
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 08 - MIRAGE DANCER 6 4/1
    		5/1 5/1
    2.25PM 1m2f LD FR 09 - STAR OF RORY 4 16/1
    		25/1 25/1
    LEG THREE






    3.00PM 5f LD FR 01 - SIMMIE 10 20/1 NON RUN N/A
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 02 - TOMILY 5 6/1
    		13/2 7/1
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 03 - RICH AND FAMOUS 8 4/1
    		5/1 9/2
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 04 - CASTLEACRE 9 12/1 NON RUN N/A
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 05 - ROSABELLE 1 5/1
    		9/2 4/1
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 06 - PARTITIA 6 6/1
    		6/1 6/1
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 07 - COPPER KNIGHT 4 7/1
    		15/2 15/2 1ST
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 08 - MEGAN LILY 2 10/1
    		14/1 14/1
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 09 - IMPART 7 16/1 NON RUN N/A
    3.00PM 5f LD FR 10 - EVERGATE 3 6/1
    		7/2 7/2 2ND
    LEG FOUR






    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 01 - DURETTO 4 14/1
    		16/1 16/1 3RD
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 02 - CARBON DATING 7 20/1
    		28/1 28/1
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 03 - COSMELLI 6 66/1 NON RUN N/A
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 04 - CULMINATION 2 100/1
    		150/1 150/1
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 05 - CYMRO 10 20/1
    		28/1 28/1
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 06 - MIDTERM 12 7/2
    		5/1 11/2
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 07 - RED VERDON 11 8/1
    		11/1 11/1
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 08 - US ARMY RANGER 9 9/4
    		9/4 9/4 2ND
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 09 - WALL OF FIRE 5 12/1
    		12/1 10/1
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 10 - WESTERN HYMN 3 8/1
    		8/1 8/1 1ST
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 11 - WINNING STORY 8 10/1
    		9/1 9/1
    3.35PM 1m5f LD FR 12 - DIAMONDS POUR MOI 1 10/1
    		11/1 11/1
    LEG FIVE






    4.05PM 7f LD FR 01 - ALNIYAT 2 16/1
    		25/1 22/1
    4.05PM 7f LD FR 02 - CHEERFILLY 1 12/1
    		9/1 9/1
    4.05PM 7f LD FR 03 - DESERT RAIN 7 2/1
    		9/4 5/2
    4.05PM 7f LD FR 04 - GYMNASTE 4 7/4
    		15/8 2/1 1ST
    4.05PM 7f LD FR 05 - HIGHLAND PASS 3 4/1
    		5/1 5/1 2ND
    4.05PM 7f LD FR 06 - PRINCESS OPHELIA 5 33/1
    		150/1 150/1
    4.05PM 7f LD FR 07 - SET IN STONE 6 8/1
    		11/1 8/1
    LEG SIX






    4.35PM 5f LD FR 01 - CASPIAN PRINCE 10 12/1
    		10/1 10/1
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 02 - DOUBLE UP 2 7/2
    		7/2 7/2 2ND
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 03 - DUKE OF FIRENZE 4 7/1
    		8/1 8/1
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 04 - ENCORE D'OR 9 11/2 NON RUN N/A
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 05 - JUDICIAL 3 7/2
    		2/1 2/1 1ST
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 06 - SECRET ASSET 6 33/1
    		125/1 150/1
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 07 - CANNY KOOL 1 6/1
    		12/1 10/1 3RD
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 08 - REFLEKTOR 5 7/1
    		9/1 9/1
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 09 - TAEXALI 7 8/1
    		9/1 9/1
    4.35PM 5f LD FR 10 - DANDYMAN PORT 8 25/1
    		33/1 33/1
     

    Cheers,

    G
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    As is the norm I will not take part in the removals, but I would add Canny Kool for consideration in the last. SL " Canny Kool was headed in the closing stages over 6f here in August and has a shout on that form if allowed his own way in front." RP " Absent since a poor run last June but worth checking the level of market confidence on return; looks interesting on 2015 form, notably his second in a good-ground Listed race here, and has the plum draw today."
    Posted by Phantom66

    TY P66
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  • SnufferSnuffer
    edited May 2017
    1.50 CHE: 05 - GABRIAL'S KAKA 10/1 JP 3 PTS
    1.50 CHE: 07 - INTRANSIGENT 12/1 JP 2 PTS
    1.50 CHE: 11 - MICHELLE STROGOFF 14/1 JP 2 PTS

    3.00 CHE: 03 - RICH AND FAMOUS 5/1 JP 5 PTS
    3.00 CHE: 06 - PARTITIA 6/1 JP 4 PTS

    3.35 CHE: 09 - WALL OF FIRE 12/1 JP 2 PTS
    3.35 CHE: 11 - WINNING WAYS 9/1 JP 3 PTS
    3.35 CHE: 12 - DIAMONDS POUR MOI 10/1 JP 3 PTS

    4.05 CHE: 05 - HIGHLAND PASS 5/1 JP 5 PTS

    4.35 CHE: 03 - DUKE OF FIRENZE 8/1 JP 3 PTS
    4.35 CHE: 08 - REFLEKTOR 9/1 JP 3 PTS
    4.35 CHE: 09 - TAEXALI 9/1 JP 3 PTS

    SNUFFER SCORED 38 POINTS WITH 0 WINNERS FROM 12 SELECTIONS


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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited May 2017
    1.50 GABRIALS KAKA
           INTRANSIGENT
           MICHELLE STRGOFF
    4.05 HIGHLAND PASS
           CHEERFILLY
    4.35 TAEXALI
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    1 .50 GABRIALS KAKA        INTRANSIGENT        MICHELLE STRGOFF 4.05 HIGHLAND PASS        CHEERFILLY 4.35 TAEXALI
    Posted by wynne1938
    Cheers Wynne, are you going to add to these to make it 12 selections?

    I can't participate in this today, time won't allow, so I will be using your guys data.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • wynne1938wynne1938
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017) : Cheers Wynne, are you going to add to these to make it 12 selections? I can't participate in this today, time won't allow, so I will be using your guys data. Cheers, G
    Posted by StayOrGo
    I cannot remove any more from your selections or add any more.
    Looking good.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    reason we remove is to bring perm costs down wynne, today is tough i get that
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    1:50  07 INTRANSIGENT 
            11 MICHELE STROGOFF

    3:00 02 TOMILY
           03 RICH AND FAMOUS

    3.35 06 MIDTERM
           
    4:05 02 CHEERFILLY
           05 HIGHLAND PASS

    4:35 09 TAEXALI
           
    MORE TO COME BUT STRUGGLING
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    i know i only managed to get 8 in and really struggled here, i think we all will have meetings like this, only reason i put rich and famous in is because of the draw. i really like the horse but has work cut out today.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    Sorry I couldn't do the removers today, too much to do with the other stuff.

    I think we can only score SNUFFERS today, as he was the only one who did the full amount.

    It only really works when we all do the allotted amount. it is a shame participation has dwindled as it is an important task that should run alongside the NAP's selections.

    Well done to SNUFFER for completing the task.

    Perhaps when we go for it next time, more will contribute (myself included, I just was really pushed and had to look at the statistical angle).

    I can make the numbers of selections lower, but it's the tough removals that I am trying to get to, the difficult choices that have to be made. If I just said remove 5, five big outsiders go and we get nothing of value from the exercise.

    It is when I have to make a tough removal that I look at your choices, but if not enough have been removed, it doesn't help me as the two I might be umming and arghing about are potentially on no-one's list. This exercise when we go for a multi-perm option is even more critical, so disappointing that Snuffer was the only full contributor.

    I would say going forward, if you are going to participate, it's all or none.

    I really hope people choose all, otherwise we lose a valuable part of the exercise which diminishes our chance of success.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    I agree with you graham but today was just a bad day for me. I was all over the place trying to get removers in and trying to find a winner for naps and I just failed miserably. 
    I didn't want to just remove anything and cloud your judgement and was sure most of the favourites was going to get best and just got myself in a mess really trying to rush which didn't help 1 little bit.
     I should of looked last night but was exhausted so just glanced. 

    anyway my future plan is study might before and finalize selections when you put spreadsheet up like I did in 90% of the trails and Thursday's card.


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  • SnufferSnuffer
    edited May 2017
    It is a shame but as yourself and Mickey have already said circumstances made it impossible for you to contribute fully to the removals.

    Obviously people are not always available due to work and other commitments but as you say the more info you have the chances of winning are increased long term, if you are not happy with limited outside help that particular day maybe abandon the attempt that day and wait for a better opportunity?

    Anyway it's early days for the syndicate and some positive results so far.

    Good Luck going forward.

    PS can someone check my results please :)


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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    it looks like from the posts above or lack of them and people unable to remove means that it probably wasn't a runner to go for it.

    Also Graham and other helpers have to do so much when we go for it, going two days running is just too much for us all. Obviously if really big rollover then go for it but run of the mill £10000's, NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD EVER SAY THAT, might be a step too far  logistically .
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    I agree with you graham but today was just a bad day for me. I was all over the place trying to get removers in and trying to find a winner for naps and I just failed miserably.  I didn't want to just remove anything and cloud your judgement and was sure most of the favourites was going to get best and just got myself in a mess really trying to rush which didn't help 1 little bit.  I should of looked last night but was exhausted so just glanced.  anyway my future plan is study might before and finalize selections when you put spreadsheet up like I did in 90% of the trails and Thursday's card.
    Posted by MICKYBLUE

    No problem Micky. Like I say, I was at fault here too, just so much on and needed to get some sleep previous evening. So I understand that, it's just it would be a shame to not have much input to go on.

    Like I said before, I am a statistics and probability guy, I look to others for specifics surrounding horse form.

    Cheers,

    G


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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    It is a shame but as yourself and Mickey have already said circumstances made it impossible for you to contribute fully to the removals. Obviously people are not always available due to work and other commitments but as you say the more info you have the chances of winning are increased long term, if you are not happy with limited outside help that particular day maybe abandon the attempt that day and wait for a better opportunity? Anyway it's early days for the syndicate and some positive results so far. Good Luck going forward. PS can someone check my results please :)
    Posted by Snuffer
    + 1 we must have posted at about the same time snuffer
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    It is a shame but as yourself and Mickey have already said circumstances made it impossible for you to contribute fully to the removals. Obviously people are not always available due to work and other commitments but as you say the more info you have the chances of winning are increased long term, if you are not happy with limited outside help that particular day maybe abandon the attempt that day and wait for a better opportunity? Anyway it's early days for the syndicate and some positive results so far. Good Luck going forward. PS can someone check my results please :)
    Posted by Snuffer
    I will SNUFF.

    I did actually get  the latest prices this time Snuffer.

    I have just updated the thread, but I will double check for you re any changes.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    1.50 CHE: 05 - GABRIAL'S KAKA 10/1 JP 3 PTS 1.50 CHE: 07 - INTRANSIGENT 12/1 JP 2 PTS 1.50 CHE: 11 - MICHELLE STROGOFF 14/1 JP 2 PTS 3.00 CHE: 03 - RICH AND FAMOUS 5/1 JP 5 PTS 3.00 CHE: 06 - PARTITIA 6/1 JP 4 PTS 3.35 CHE: 09 - WALL OF FIRE 12/1 JP 2 PTS 3.35 CHE: 11 - WINNING WAYS 9/1 JP 3 PTS 3.35 CHE: 12 - DIAMONDS POUR MOI 10/1 JP 3 PTS 4.05 CHE: 05 - HIGHLAND PASS 5/1 JP 5 PTS 4.35 CHE: 03 - DUKE OF FIRENZE 8/1 JP 3 PTS 4.35 CHE: 08 - REFLEKTOR 9/1 JP 3 PTS 4.35 CHE: 09 - TAEXALI 9/1 JP 3 PTS SNUFFER SCORED 38 POINTS WITH 0 WINNERS FROM 12 SELECTIONS
    Posted by Snuffer
    Hi Snuff. VWP!

    With the latest price changes. (my fault only just added them) Wall of Fire got you 3pts not two so 39PTS and ZERO winners. Awesome!

    I will update the remover tables for the last two days later tonight.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • SnufferSnuffer
    edited May 2017
    Thanks Graham :)
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    Thanks Graham :)
    Posted by Snuffer
    Out of interest Snuffer, do you think if I had put "Sound Advice" in, would you have removed it?

    Or is too hard to say now, after the event?
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    i didnt look at it where it wasnt in, for me id rather more in with more to remove to make sure everybody looks at horses with a chance.
    id have 90% removed it tho
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    i didnt look at it where it wasnt in, for me id rather more in with more to remove to make sure everybody looks at horses with a chance. id have 90% removed it tho
    Posted by MICKYBLUE
    Ok, I agree.

    But if I do that, people have to remove the required number though, otherwise pointless if people just remove a few outsiders.
     
    :=)
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    lol i agree i only done it once as ran out of time.

    was just me flapping around tho.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    lol i agree i only done it once as ran out of time. was just me flapping around tho.
    Posted by MICKYBLUE
    Yeh, I understand that, I think if no time, don't do it at all and just do the NAP's.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    i did the ones i did to help you out with removals granted mine was all the easy ones to remove
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  • SnufferSnuffer
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017) : Out of interest Snuffer, do you think if I had put "Sound Advice" in, would you have removed it? Or is too hard to say now, after the event?
    Posted by StayOrGo
    Tbh Graham when reading up on the other horses in that race it was never really mentioned in good light so it could have been, but it was tough to remove 12 today so may have stayed in.

    Maybe We should pay more attention to the ones not selected but then if we all mentioned ones you didn't select it would sew seeds and the perms would be out of control and you would remove winners in their place, it's a fine line but good fun none the less!

    Maybe today was a stretch too far after yesterday's good result, you must have been shattered after your 'all nighter' but I guess it's the buzz of racing that keeps us all wanting more!
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017) : Tbh Graham when reading up on the other horses in that race it was never really mentioned in good light so it could have been, but it was tough to remove 12 today so may have stayed in. Maybe We should pay more attention to the ones not selected but then if we all mentioned ones you didn't select it would sew seeds and the perms would be out of control and you would remove winners in their place, it's a fine line but good fun none the less! Maybe today was a stretch too far after yesterday's good result, you must have been shattered after your 'all nighter' but I guess it's the buzz of racing that keeps us all wanting more!
    Posted by Snuffer


    Hi R.

    I did make the following statement on the OP today:

    "I have narrowed it down quite a bit, maybe too much, so if you want me to put any back in, please let me know ASAP."

    I will leave more in next time and ask people to remove more as a result.

    However, that strategy is only going to work if we have plenty of people doing a full set of removals. (Not a good turn out yesterday or today) Thank god for SNUFFER and he's not even in the syndicate, but is doing a sterling job for us with the removals.

    Maybe next GO-LIVE we'll get more "remover" input with that regard.

    Cheers,

    G


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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    i did the ones i did to help you out with removals granted mine was all the easy ones to remove
    Posted by MICKYBLUE

    Yes, I wssn't having a dig mate. It is natural to do the easier ones first, but the meat is in the last few. :=)
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  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME
    edited May 2017
    I never look at this thread coz I'm not in the syndicate and I would hate for it to go down on something I'd suggested you take out. I think it's easier to concentrate on the horses you definitely want in any perm. 
    Today at Chester looked difficult, but as we saw, many of the bankers did actually win, so it might be better to concentrate on your main strategy and pick 1 banker, so that you can have multiple choices in the difficult races.
    It's amazing to see that the Sporting Life Pick7 went down on the last leg the last 2 days, meaning the people had picked the winners of the first 6 races with just 1 choice in each race.
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited May 2017
    In Response to Re: REMOVERS SPREADSHEET FOR CHESTER TODAY (FRI 12TH MAY 2017):
    I never look at this thread coz I'm not in the syndicate and I would hate for it to go down on something I'd suggested you take out. I think it's easier to concentrate on the horses you definitely want in any perm.  Today at Chester looked difficult, but as we saw, many of the bankers did actually win, so it might be better to concentrate on your main strategy and pick 1 banker, so that you can have multiple choices in the difficult races. It's amazing to see that the Sporting Life Pick7 went down on the last leg the last 2 days, meaning the people had picked the winners of the first 6 races with just 1 choice in each race.
    Posted by MISTY4ME
    Thanks for this Mist.

    I think by optimising and combining both the NAP's selections and the removal choices, we can get the best results.

    Often horses at fairly big prices 10/1, 12/1 type things are not picked as NAP's but if they are not removed and come in it's a potential perm buster for others, whilst we may still be in.

    Regarding the pick 7, yes they have done well from a single line, but I reckon as it's free, there will be literally 10's of thousands of people doing it.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited May 2017
    misty and phantom please put your removals in on next attempt if available. nobody will hold any to ransom, at the end of day its a gamble, obviously gambles lose nobody's fault just the way it is.

    not many putting input now so need help.
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