40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won - "Mission Sky Poker Tour"

markycash

In Response to Re: 40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won - "Mission Sky Poker Tour":

In Response to Re: 40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won - "Mission Sky Poker Tour" : You wouldnt want to do it on a regular basis. As you have done it once I am sure you will be nominated in the future. You havent been in the army have you?
Posted by HAYSIE

Nah lol, closest I got was the Boys Brigade as my parents suggested it would 'give me something to do'...

Essexphil

In Response to Re: 40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won -:

In Response to Re: 40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won - : Yes - but only if they bust first...... I understand Mr Channing has booked his full quota. Very wise, imo.
Posted by Tikay10

i think you are being very mean to Neil "The Value" Channing...

HAYSIE

In Response to Re: 40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won - "Mission Sky Poker Tour":

In Response to Re: 40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won - "Mission Sky Poker Tour" : Nah lol, closest I got was the Boys Brigade as my parents suggested it would 'give me something to do'...
Posted by markycash

Their motto is never volunteer for anything.

candide78

In Response to Re: 40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won - "Mission Sky Poker Tour":

In Response to Re: 40 (FORTY) x £400 packages to SPT Manchester to be won - "Mission Sky Poker Tour" : Okay, I will try and lighten your writing workload Hi Jonathan, Firstly I would say that, assuming you are polite and respectful to others at your table (which I assume you would be)... People will generally be helpful if you are new to playing live poker. I would say this is especially likely to be the case at the SPT games. If you think about it, apart from the fact that all the Sky players and staff are such a lovely bunch, there will be plenty of people winning freerolls and other promotions to play in Manchester whom have never played live poker before, so you will not be alone! The vast majority of people at tables would realise that it is good to attract new players to the game and make them feel welcome. Therefore it makes no sense for them to be overly impatient with new players. Apart from a couple of hours messing around in a local casino, my first real live tourney was a WSOP event. There were 2 very famous live pros at the table and the stakes where also higher. As a relative novice at the time I made a few mistakes (betting out of turn, not acting on time when it was my turn, etc etc). Even here in this environment the players were all helpful as they realised any mistakes were completely unintentional. Their patience and understanding ensured I would be prepared to chuck my money into poker tourney prizepools for years to come. You will probably make mistakes. Even many of the seasoned players who play on here will make mistakes! If you think about, most of us who play a lot online are used to the software doing so much for us. Such as bleeping when it is our turn to act; posting our blinds; protecting our cards; counting our chips out for us; etc etc. It can be disconcerting and take a little time to adapt when we realise we have to do all these things for ourselves. If you do make a few mistakes, you will not be the only one I assure you. So come along and have some fun! Now obviously it is preferable if we can limit the mistakes. Firstly it means we are developing our live ability, secondly it may prevent the shark in seat 4 from trying to take advantage of us as they realise we have a tad less experience than Amarillo Slim. In that light here are some of the common things to consider with regards to poker etiquette...          ******************************************** Try not to be disruptive when people are involved in a pot. For example do not state that "you just folded such and such a hand" while people have still to decide on their action. This can obviously influence the hand, a hand that you are not directly involved in. If you are talking to someone about something else unrelated to the hand while people are trying to make a decision then keep it quiet or step away from the table and discuss it. In the same vein... While we might be screaming inside to ourselves "Damn, I would of made a set!" when we see a flop after folding our piddly pair because an aggro maniac like Tikay opened for 10x. Don't say such things out loud as once again it will influence how the pot is played out. Act when it is your turn to act Try to pay attention to what is happening and act promptly when it is your turn to act. In the same light try not to act out of turn. For example if you raise from the button and the player before you in the cut off has not even acted yet then your out-of-turn action will influence how the hand plays out. As it wasn't your turn to act, this is unfair. If you do this an odd time and it seems like an honest mistake people will usually be understanding but if it is done with a high frequency it will understandably irk some players. Protect your hand at all times You do not need to wear a glove or anything like that... just try not to let other players see your hand for obvious reasons. You also do not want the dealer to mistakenly throw your hand into the muck. It therefore makes sense to protect your hand at all times. Whether this means you sit a fancy little card protector atop your cards, such as a fossil like Tikay's opponent in a live game last night does, or simply keep your cards out of everyones reach is entirely up to you! Give your hand up when the pot is done I have to admit I was terrible on this front when I played live for the first few times. You win a pot, are all happy, counting your newly acquired chips, placing them all neatly in piles and wondering if you have enough to build some cool little chip structures and then the dealer asks you if they can have the cards back... OOPS! Well the aces were nice, it would have been nice to keep them. Again, it is unlikely anyone is going to flip the table upside down and declare 'shenanigans' I just thought I would highlight this as it is so easy to do when we are just starting out in the live pokersphere. Clearly state your action You do not need to tell everyone you are going to the bathroom or intend to order pizza but... if you are calling then just say "call", if you are raising then just say "raise to X amount". You do not usually need to state the amount as long as you put the correct amount of chips out into the middle but it just makes your intentions much more clear to everyone and avoids awkward situations. Be polite Apart from not doing Will Kassouf impressions... Try not to go overly crazy if you win a big hand and rub peoples noses in it. I don't think there are usually specific rules that deal with this (I could be wrong). I imagine some of the general rules on behaviour could be used though. It is just more to do with not humiliating other players. If you need to make/recieve calls then jump away from the tables to do so. It is generally frowned upon to take video etc on your phone while at the table too. I am not sure how Sky or the casino will view this but generally there are copyright issues and also other players privacy to think about. I guess not slowrolling people falls into this section too. It is generally considered rude if you feel you have a hand locked up and make an opponent needlessly sweat and think they have won a hand. Do not pretend you are raising to see opponents reactions, such as by starting to move a big pile of chips into the middle and then bringing them back. Also while it is fine to ponder your action and plan the crazy line you are going to adopt to make an opponent donate their stack to you... try and do so in a reasonable time. Live poker goes more slowly than online and it is therefore good to try and keep things moving along relatively quickly so you can fit a good few hands in and hopefully be dealt a few premiums. Make your bets clear with your action For example do not put out one chunk of chips and then add a few more and a few more etc. Generally this would not be accepted anyway. Just put the chips together for the size of the bet you want to make then put them out in 1 motion. Do not throw your chips into the pot otherwise it is hard for anyone to tell what you actually put out into the middle. Also keep your chips in your area and put any large denomination chips at the front for all others to clearly see. If your big chips are hiding away at the back then people will have an inaccurate picture of how many chips you have and may alter their action accordingly. There was a high profile case about this just recently in a televised game when Alec Torelli done this. Keep your cards to yourself unless you have to show them There are occasions when you may want to show your cards. You are giving other players valuable info though when you do this so generally try not to (there are caveats - "9 high like a boss!" springs to mind). If you do show your cards then they have to be shown in a way that everyone can see them, you shouldn't show your cards to just certain players. The majority of the above info is from my own experience but some snippets will be from articles I have read online.           ******************************************* As mentioned at the start, you will probably not remember all of that and will make the odd mistake or three. As long as you are polite to people and try your best to keep up with the action I doubt anyone will be anything other than helpful. They may try to remove the burden of having chips from you (it is the nature of the game afterall) but they will generally try to do so in a polite and understanding manner. It is loads of fun playing live and I have no doubt Sky will pull all the stops out to make it a memorable experience so come along and have some fun. Good luck!
Posted by markycash

Hi Markycash,

Wow! Thanks for a thoughtful and comprehensive post.

Much abliged.

Regards Johnathan.