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** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** DAY 3 ASCOT PLACEPOT PERM **

StayOrGoStayOrGo
edited June 2017 in Betting Chat
I have left the DRAW "DR" column in for your information.

Cheers,

G
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    Day three PLACEPOT perms below:

     
    TIME PERM A PERM B PERM C SHORTLIST DR LAT RES
    LEG 1 LEG 1 LEG 1 LEG 1 LEG 1


    2:30
    		02 - CARDSHARP
    		02 - CARDSHARP 15 14/1
    2:30


    		03 - CONSEQUENCES 6 14/1
    2:30

    		04 - FROZEN ANGEL 04 - FROZEN ANGEL 3 10/1
    2:30 06 - HAVANA GREY 06 - HAVANA GREY
    		06 - HAVANA GREY 14 8/1
    2:30
    		07 - IT DON’T COME EASY 07 - IT DON’T COME EASY 07 - IT DON’T COME EASY 5 8/1
    2:30
    		08 - KODITIME 08 - KODITIME 08 - KODITIME 18 12/1
    2:30 09 - McERIN 09 - McERIN
    		09 - McERIN 10 7/1
    2:30

    		11 - NINE BELOW ZERO 11 - NINE BELOW ZERO 4 9/1
    2:30 14 - SANTRY 14 - SANTRY 14 - SANTRY 14 - SANTRY 16 13/2
    2:30


    		15 - SIOUX NATION 2 16/1
    2:30


    		16 - TRUE BLUE MOON 17 18/1
    LEG 2 LEG 2 LEG 2 LEG 2 LEG 2


    3:05 02 - BAY OF POETS

    		02 - BAY OF POETS 9 11/1
    3:05
    		03 - BENBATL 03 - BENBATL 03 - BENBATL 6 9/2
    3:05

    		06 – IRISH CORRESPONDENT 06 – IRISH CORRESPONDENT 4 7/1
    3:05 09 - MIRAGE DANCER

    		09 - MIRAGE DANCER 3 11/2
    3:05 11 – ORDER OF THE GARTER 11 – ORDER OF THE GARTER 11 – ORDER OF THE GARTER 11 – ORDER OF THE GARTER 14 9/2
    3:05 16 - TAMLEEK
    		16 - TAMLEEK 16 - TAMLEEK 1 7/1
    LEG 3 LEG 3 LEG 3 LEG 3 LEG 3


    3:40 01 - ALLURINGLY 01 - ALLURINGLY 01 - ALLURINGLY 01 - ALLURINGLY 4 4/1
    3:40


    		03 - ASTRONOMY'S CHOICE 2 12/1
    3:40 05 - CORONET

    		05 - CORONET 1 9/1
    3:40 08 - MORI 08 - MORI 08 - MORI 08 - MORI 10 9/4
    3:40
    		09 - NAUGHTY OR NICE
    		09 - NAUGHTY OR NICE 7 8/1
    LEG 4 LEG 4 LEG 4 LEG 4 LEG 4


    4:20 01 - BIG ORANGE

    		01 - BIG ORANGE 7 8/1
    4:20 03 - ORDER OF St GEORGE 03 - ORDER OF St GEORGE 03 - ORDER OF St GEORGE 03 - ORDER OF St GEORGE 13 1/1
    4:20


    		05 - SHEIKHZAYEDROAD 3 12/1
    4:20
    		13 - SIMPLE VERSE
    		13 - SIMPLE VERSE 4 8/1
    LEG 5 LEG 5 LEG 5 LEG 5 LEG 5


    5:00

    		01 - RUSUMAAT 01 - RUSUMAAT 25 28/1
    5:00

    		05 - EXECUTIVE FORCE 05 - EXECUTIVE FORCE 23 25/1
    5:00 10 - HYDE PARK

    		10 - HYDE PARK 26 28/1
    5:00


    		13 - MEDAHIM 22 33/1
    5:00 14 - SON OF THE STARS 14 - SON OF THE STARS
    		14 - SON OF THE STARS 20 6/1
    5:00 16 - CITY OF JOY
    		16 - CITY OF JOY 16 - CITY OF JOY 17 9/1
    5:00

    		18 - SADADOR 18 - SADADOR 30 16/1
    5:00 20 - COLIBRI
    		20 - COLIBRI 20 - COLIBRI 32 14/1
    5:00 21 - KEYSER SOZE 21 - KEYSER SOZE 21 - KEYSER SOZE 21 - KEYSER SOZE 31 9/1
    5:00

    		22 - AFAAK 22 - AFAAK 10 16/1
    5:00


    		24 - THE GRAPE ESCAPE 12 40/1
    5:00

    		30 - MATHS PRIZE 30 - MATHS PRIZE 13 18/1
    5:00
    		31 - HORROOB
    		31 - HORROOB 29 16/1
    LEG 6 LEG 6 LEG 6 LEG 6 LEG 6


    5:35
    		01 - HOMESMAN
    		01 - HOMESMAN 16 14/1
    5:35
    		02 - SOFIA'S ROCK
    		02 - SOFIA'S ROCK 20 11/1
    5:35


    		04 - UTAH 13 14/1
    5:35 05 - MASTER SINGER 05 - MASTER SINGER 05 - MASTER SINGER 05 - MASTER SINGER 15 6/1
    5:35


    		07 - TARTINI 6 16/1
    5:35


    		08 - GOOD OMEN 19 18/1
    5:35
    		09 - FIRST NATION
    		09 - FIRST NATION 18 14/1
    5:35


    		10 - BIN BATTUTA 5 25/1
    5:35 11 - DROCHAID
    		11 - DROCHAID 11 - DROCHAID 7 14/1
    5:35
    		12 - ATTY PERSSE
    		12 - ATTY PERSSE 22 7/1
    5:35 15 - MISTER MANDURO
    		15 - MISTER MANDURO 15 - MISTER MANDURO 14 8/1








    10P LINES 3*4*3*2*5*3 = 1,080 LINES 6*2*3*2*3*5 = 1,080 LINES 5*4*2*1*8*3 = 960 LINES











    PERM COST £108.00 £108.00 £96.00











    TOTAL COST £312.00





    GL us!
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  • rabdenirorabdeniro
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** DAY 3 ASCOT PLACEPOT PERM **:
    I have left the DRAW "DR" column in for your information. Cheers, G
    Posted by StayOrGo
     GL
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    Last minute change to PERM A. OP now correct, receipts below:

    22/06/17 2:26:07 PM 2963391/3234842 Placepot14:306 - Havana Grey0 OpenO£108.00£0.00
        Ascot9 - Mcerin0 Open   
        Ascot14 - Santry0 Open   
        Ascot2 - Bay Of Poets0 Open   
        Ascot9 - Mirage Dancer0 Open   
        Ascot11 - Orderofthegarter0 Open   
        Ascot16 - Tamleek0 Open   
        Ascot1 - Alluringly0 Open   
        Ascot5 - Coronet0 Open   
        Ascot8 - Mori0 Open   
        Ascot1 - Big Orange0 Open   
        Ascot3 - Order Of St George0 Open   
        Ascot10 - Hyde Park0 Open   
        Ascot14 - Son Of The Stars0 Open   
        Ascot16 - City Of Joy0 Open   
        Ascot20 - Colibri0 Open   
        Ascot21 - Keyser Soze0 Open   
        Ascot5 - Master Singer0 Open   
        Ascot11 - Drochaid0 Open   
        Ascot15 - Mister Manduro0 Open   
    22/06/17 2:26:07 PM 2963391/3234842 Placepot    OpenO£108.00£0.00
    22/06/17 2:15:28 PM 2963176/3234623 Placepot14:302 - Cardsharp0 OpenO£108.00£0.00
        Ascot6 - Havana Grey0 Open   
        Ascot7 - It Dont Come Easy0 Open   
        Ascot8 - Koditime0 Open   
        Ascot9 - Mcerin0 Open   
        Ascot14 - Santry0 Open   
        Ascot3 - Benbatl0 Open   
        Ascot11 - Orderofthegarter0 Open   
        Ascot1 - Alluringly0 Open   
        Ascot8 - Mori0 Open   
        Ascot9 - Naughty Or Nice0 Open   
        Ascot3 - Order Of St George0 Open   
        Ascot13 - Simple Verse0 Open   
        Ascot14 - Son Of The Stars0 Open   
        Ascot21 - Keyser Soze0 Open   
        Ascot31 - Horroob0 Open   
        Ascot1 - Homesman0 Open   
        Ascot2 - Sofia's Rock0 Open   
        Ascot5 - Master Singer0 Open   
        Ascot9 - First Nation0 Open   
        Ascot12 - Atty Persse0 Open   
    22/06/17 2:15:28 PM 2963176/3234623 Placepot    OpenO£108.00£0.00
    22/06/17 2:11:51 PM 2963103/3234548 Placepot14:304 - Frozen Angel0 OpenO£96.00£0.00
        Ascot7 - It Dont Come Easy0 Open   
        Ascot8 - Koditime0 Open   
        Ascot11 - Nine Below Zero0 Open   
        Ascot14 - Santry0 Open   
        Ascot3 - Benbatl0 Open   
        Ascot6 - Irishcorrespondent0 Open   
        Ascot11 - Orderofthegarter0 Open   
        Ascot16 - Tamleek0 Open   
        Ascot1 - Alluringly0 Open   
        Ascot8 - Mori0 Open   
        Ascot3 - Order Of St George0 Open   
        Ascot1 - Rusumaat0 Open   
        Ascot5 - Executive Force0 Open   
        Ascot16 - City Of Joy0 Open   
        Ascot18 - Sabador0 Open   
        Ascot20 - Colibri0 Open   
        Ascot21 - Keyser Soze0 Open   
        Ascot22 - Afaak0 Open   
        Ascot30 - Maths Prize0 Open   
        Ascot5 - Master Singer0 Open   
        Ascot11 - Drochaid0 Open   
        Ascot15 - Mister Manduro0 Open

    GL us!


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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    good luck all
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    nice all 3 through and havana grey takes out 100000 units :) 652821.97 units at start 165038.48 UNITS LEFT.
    £476,560 in pool
    gl us
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    On the following in LEG 2:
    TIME PERM A PERM B PERM C SHORTLIST DR LAT RES
    LEG 2 LEG 2 LEG 2 LEG 2 LEG 2


    3:05 02 - BAY OF POETS

    		02 - BAY OF POETS 9 11/1
    3:05
    		03 - BENBATL 03 - BENBATL 03 - BENBATL 6 9/2
    3:05

    		06 – IRISH CORRESPONDENT 06 – IRISH CORRESPONDENT 4 7/1
    3:05 09 - MIRAGE DANCER

    		09 - MIRAGE DANCER 3 11/2
    3:05 11 – ORDER OF THE GARTER 11 – ORDER OF THE GARTER 11 – ORDER OF THE GARTER 11 – ORDER OF THE GARTER 14 9/2
    3:05 16 - TAMLEEK
    		16 - TAMLEEK 16 - TAMLEEK 1 7/1
    I am on school run today, so perhaps Micky can keep us updated (assuming we get through LEG 2)
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  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME
    edited June 2017
    are we using the LATEST prices above for the SCORING on the REMOVALS??
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    yes ill do updates im on school run aswell but thats only a 10 min run ;)
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** DAY 3 ASCOT PLACEPOT PERM **:
    are we using the LATEST prices above for the SCORING on the REMOVALS??
    Posted by MISTY4ME

    I have posed the latest prices on the OP of the removals spreadsheet.

    That is the best one to use, they may be the same, but the one on the removals spreadsheet is final as long as the "LAT column is populated.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • Phantom66Phantom66
    edited June 2017
    In all 3 and all doubled up WP
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    109189.58 units left

    all 3 perms intact :)

    LEG 3LEG 3LEG 3LEG 3LEG 3


    3:4001 - ALLURINGLY01 - ALLURINGLY01 - ALLURINGLY01 - ALLURINGLY44/1
    3:40


    		03 - ASTRONOMY'S CHOICE212/1
    3:4005 - CORONET

    		05 - CORONET19/1
    3:4008 - MORI08 - MORI08 - MORI08 - MORI109/4
    3:40
    		09 - NAUGHTY OR NICE
    		09 - NAUGHTY OR NICE78/1

    GL US
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    UNITS LEFT 55397.48

    ALL 3 PERMS STILL GOING STRONG

    WOULD LIKE A 123 HERE :)
    LEG 4LEG 4LEG 4LEG 4LEG 4


    4:2001 - BIG ORANGE

    		01 - BIG ORANGE78/1
    4:2003 - ORDER OF St GEORGE03 - ORDER OF St GEORGE03 - ORDER OF St GEORGE03 - ORDER OF St GEORGE131/1
    4:20


    		05 - SHEIKHZAYEDROAD312/1
    4:20
    		13 - SIMPLE VERSE
    		13 - SIMPLE VERSE48/1

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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    BOOM ALL 3 STILL IN WITH 1 DOUBLE UP GOING INTO THE TOUGH LAST 2 RACES.

    UNITS LEFT 43789.72

    LEG 5LEG 5LEG 5LEG 5LEG 5


    5:00

    		01 - RUSUMAAT01 - RUSUMAAT2528/1
    5:00

    		05 - EXECUTIVE FORCE05 - EXECUTIVE FORCE2325/1
    5:0010 - HYDE PARK

    		10 - HYDE PARK2628/1
    5:00


    		13 - MEDAHIM2233/1
    5:0014 - SON OF THE STARS14 - SON OF THE STARS
    		14 - SON OF THE STARS206/1
    5:0016 - CITY OF JOY
    		16 - CITY OF JOY16 - CITY OF JOY179/1
    5:00

    		18 - SADADOR18 - SADADOR3016/1
    5:0020 - COLIBRI
    		20 - COLIBRI20 - COLIBRI3214/1
    5:0021 - KEYSER SOZE21 - KEYSER SOZE21 - KEYSER SOZE21 - KEYSER SOZE319/1
    5:00

    		22 - AFAAK22 - AFAAK1016/1
    5:00


    		24 - THE GRAPE ESCAPE1240/1
    5:00

    		30 - MATHS PRIZE30 - MATHS PRIZE1318/1
    5:00
    		31 - HORROOB
    		31 - HORROOB2916/1

    GL US
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    Wrong side of the draw bias again.

    Times have been very slow compared to first two days, so how much of the change to the bias is that and how much is down to the pace is debatable, however, one thing is for sure, us getting the bias wrong is brutal for our bets.

    It's the difference between big wins and big losses.

    Where's the bias going to be tomorrow? We have just under £300 left in the kitty.

    Should we do tomorrow, or just watch and save it for Saturday?

    Cheers,

    G
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    ALL 3 PERMS OUT 
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  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** DAY 3 ASCOT PLACEPOT PERM **:
    Wrong side of the draw bias again. Times have been very slow compared to first two days, so how much of the change to the bias is that and how much is down to the pace is debatable, however, one thing is for sure, us getting the bias wrong is brutal for our bets. It's the difference between big wins and big losses. Where's the bias going to be tomorrow? We have just under £300 left in the kitty. Should we do tomorrow, or just watch and save it for Saturday? Cheers, G
    Posted by StayOrGo
    I know it's good fun to watch ROYAL ASCOT with some form of Multiple perm on, but I've never thought the PLACEPOT is a winning bet unless you go more for the outsiders. That is the only way you get big payouts when all the first three fav's finish unplaced, and most of the time you are lucky to get your money back if the fancied horses get placed.

    I think your system is great for the JACKPOT, but IMO, not as good for the PLACEPOT. But it's always easier afterwards, but I've tried to tell my Dad this on numerous occasions because he is a Form and Fav's man.
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  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME
    edited June 2017
    It might be worth saving the funds for a BIG ROLLOVER (hopefully) on the JACKPOT on Sunday, though I'm really suprised how low the JACKPOT fund is, and proves that BETFRED have ruined it since they took it over
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** DAY 3 ASCOT PLACEPOT PERM **:
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** DAY 3 ASCOT PLACEPOT PERM ** : I know it's good fun to watch ROYAL ASCOT with some form of Multiple perm on, but I've never thought the PLACEPOT is a winning bet unless you go more for the outsiders. That is the only way you get big payouts when all the first three fav's finish unplaced, and most of the time you are lucky to get your money back if the fancied horses get placed. I think your system is great for the JACKPOT, but IMO, not as good for the PLACEPOT. But it's always easier afterwards, but I've tried to tell my Dad this on numerous occasions because he is a Form and Fav's man.
    Posted by MISTY4ME
    Yes, I take your point, but I still think it's +ev, if we got the draw bias right it would have been a totally different story, anyhow, we'll hold off on tomorrow.

    Certainly we lost our edge without a known/accurate draw bias. (Instead of it working for us, the inconsistencies have caused the opposite)

    I was hesitant that the rain/watering may cause the reverse effect as I have seen it happen before at Ascot.

    I did feel like holding off today, but so many people had already put a lot of effort in.

    Roger, hopefully you haven't started the spreadsheet yet, but it will be a NO-GO for tomorrow.

    Cheers,

    G
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  • StayOrGoStayOrGo
    edited June 2017
    I know this is always a game of ifs and buts, but both yesterday and today, had we got the draw bias right in LEG 5 we'd be showing a very healthy profit.

    Take today, even if we only got one selection in in LEG 5 (Which wouldn't have been difficult, if predicting correctly the draw bias)

    We would have got the first perm for 80p the 2nd one for 80P and the 3rd one for 20P.

    I mean, I knew LEG 5 was tough, so we had ELEVEN HORSES covered in the 5th LEG, it would be virtually impossible to bust if having the draw bias correct.

    It's been frustrating, as we have been doing a lot of things right, only for it to count for nothing due to populating our selections in LEG 5 based on the wrong half of the track. :=(

    Anyhow, we'll watch tomorrow and then decide about Saturday.

    I do want to thank people for all the effort they have gone to working on this, I know we have all worked very hard and it is disappointing for all of us to bust out the way we have after starting so well. 

    Cheers,

    G
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  • rabdenirorabdeniro
    edited June 2017
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** DAY 3 ASCOT PLACEPOT PERM **:
    In Response to Re: ** JACKPOT SYNDICATE ** DAY 3 ASCOT PLACEPOT PERM ** : Yes, I take your point, but I still think it's +ev, if we got the draw bias right it would have been a totally different story, anyhow, we'll hold off on tomorrow. Certainly we lost our edge without a known/accurate draw bias. (Instead of it working for us, the inconsistencies have caused the opposite) I was hesitant that the rain/watering may cause the reverse effect as I have seen it happen before at Ascot. I did feel like holding off today, but so many people had already put a lot of effort in. Roger, hopefully you haven't started the spreadsheet yet, but it will be a NO-GO for tomorrow. Cheers, G
    Posted by StayOrGo
    Unlucky again, 5th leg gubbed us again.
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  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME
    edited June 2017
    Yes it's so difficult to know until you've seen how the first couple of races go, which obviously you can't do before putting on a PLACEPOT or JACKPOT bet.

    I thought things might even up a bit today, and when you saw Ryan Moore stay on far side in 1st race, you just knew it.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited June 2017
    30 runner races are always tough in these I agree with some of the pundits it could be won from either side. going forward maybe a few on either side or if we think bias is favoured one side just put 2 in from other side just in case.
    defo in placepots.
    saying that one of the pundits was saying frontrunner today will not be suited and big orange ran a blinder. have I said I backed a winner 
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