What to do?

Seagull158

This isnt a bad beat or suck out story. I am simply asking for opinions on what the best play is.
£200 deepstack last night. 44 runners, 3 1/4 hours in, 9 players left with 5 to cash. I'm lying 3rd. The chip leader has about 35000 chips and the shortstack has about 10,000. I picked up these hands consecutively.

Seagull158	Small blind		800.00	800.00	32760.00
music1	Big blind		1600.00	2400.00	18310.00
	Your hole cards	2 2
Quietman	Raise		4800.00	7200.00	14552.50
Berrybez	Fold
Seagull158	?????

music1	Small blind		800.00	800.00	17510.00
Quietman	Big blind		1600.00	2400.00	20152.50
	Your hole cards	8 8
Berrybez	Fold
Seagull158	Raise		4800.00	7200.00	27960.00
music1	All-in		17510.00	24710.00	0.00
Quietman	Fold
Seagull158	?????

beaneh

What is your stack size to start the hand mate?

What is your oppos? How often does he raise? 

22: with 20 bets is a fold or go all in, i'd rather fold with this hand as we fare so poorly against even badly constructed calling ranges.

Snap call the 88 unless the person is very tight.

hurst05

fold and call

Seagull158

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What is your stack size to start the hand mate? What is your oppos? How often does he raise?  22: with 20 bets is a fold or go all in, i'd rather fold with this hand as we fare so poorly against even badly constructed calling ranges. Snap call the 88 unless the person is very tight.
Posted by beaneh

RH column is stack sizes.

Seagull158

Thanks guys. I folded both but I felt the 88 was a bad fold. I called later on with AQ against AK and went out before the cash, feeling I missed out with the 88.

beaneh

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In Response to Re: What to do? : RH column is stack sizes.
Posted by Seagull158

I get confused as to whether it is stack size after putting in the raise or whatever.

Seagull158

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In Response to Re: What to do? : I get confused as to whether it is stack size after putting in the raise or whatever.
Posted by beaneh

Yeah, it is after the raise to be accurate but probably doesnt make much diff in this case.

cottlad

1. instasnapfold...... yr effectively callin off yr tournament with maximum a coinflip..... and very often with just 2 outs.

2. Not clear cut... again, yr nearly in he same situation as the 22 hand as not very often oppo shows up with 22-77
Probably make a crying call 60% but it would depend on currenbt table dynamics and whether i wanted to ake on a race (hopefully)  I can probs fold 40%