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Hi, would like some thoughts on the following hand please. Not much info on villain.
I`d like to know what you think of my play so far, and what my next move should be.
cheers
I`d like to know what you think of my play so far, and what my next move should be.
cheers
| Pablo-g | Small blind | £0.15 | £0.15 | £19.78 | |
| FINS | Big blind | £0.30 | £0.45 | £41.90 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| OMahonyO | Raise | £1.20 | £1.65 | £26.16 | |
| x | Call | £1.20 | £2.85 | £29.14 | |
| melian | Fold | ||||
| ace13 | Fold | ||||
| Pablo-g | Fold | ||||
| FINS | Call | £0.90 | £3.75 | £41.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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| FINS | Check | ||||
| OMahonyO | Bet | £2.40 | £6.15 | £23.76 | |
| x | Raise | £6.68 | £12.83 | £22.46 | |
| FINS | Fold | ||||
| OMahonyO | Call | £4.28 | £17.11 | £19.48 | |
| Turn | |||||
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| OMahonyO | Check | ||||
| x | Bet | £8.56 | £25.67 | £13.90 | |
Comments
Is this a LOL at the advice given, or a LOL, at `yes you were spewey last night and it was funny`?
ty all.
In case you think "Uh oh, Sky Dave has gone and lost his marbles...", bear with me here. We're dealing with an opponent where we really know diddly squat about the way they play. We don't know if they're a thinker, a donk, a nit or laggy as Tikay after a good day of trainspotting. We need to play the hand without prejudice and think what works best in this particular spot.
OK, so we know nothing about our opponent other than (as implied fromt OMahonyO's latter comment) he or she has been knocking us off a few pots. Again, we don't know if they were legit hands or ones where we got ran out of town. Either way, no biggies in there.
To the hand. We raise it up pre with AJo (correct, imo) and get flatted in two spots. Player X, who I am calling Villain from now on, flat called in the seat next to us with four players behind them to act. Now, we need to not be too dogmatic about the way we think about poker EVER, but on the whole players tend to reraise bigger pairs and the likes of AK here. I imagine AQ is possibly a reraise too, depending on player. This leaves him with hands such as:
AJ downwards,
Broadways - KQ/KJ/QJ
Pairs - let's suppose 99 or worse. I think a reraise is coming with TT and most certainly with JJ and QQ. We could be against a trappy opponent with KK or AA, but if so I am not a huge fan of their play with so many players still to act in the hand.
FINS joins in too, so we're three way to the flop.
Preflop assessment - we're more often ahead vs Villain's range, or a small dog vs those pairs. Remember - there are less ways of making pairs than the likes of KQ and A9.
Marks out of 10 for our play: 9/10. No one ever gets 10/10 off Sky Dave.
On the flop - Pot = £3.75.
FINS checks to us and we fire out £2.40, so just under two-thirds pot. Personally I bet a bit more - somewhere around £3 just so our bet isn't misconstrued as weak when actually we're pretty happy with the board. That's a style thing though, so no one is going to hate us too much for leaving 60p at home this time.
Now, the interesting bit. We get reraised up to £6.68 by Villain. FINS folds and we're left with the following:
Top pair good kicker.
Pot offering 4.28 to 12.83 - 3-1 to friends.
Let's come back to the comment from zing, who thinks his range crushes us. What hands have us crushed here? AK, AQ, A9, A5, AA, 99 and 55. We're not even in terrible shape against 95 believe it or not. His range seems to have become very polarised (narrow, if you prefer that terminology) all of a sudden, and all from a £4.48 raise? Hmm, there's one of three things going on here:
1) Zing is right and we're getting milked.
2) Villain is reraising either to find out if he's ahead or simply because he's full of it.
3) He could be raising with some of his draws, knowing he's got outs. He probably read one of Orford's treatises on 'betting on the come'. Superb they are, too.
If it's case 1, we're buried vs sets and ~16% against the A9/A5. We're 25% vs 95, making this a mathematically correct call. Anecdotal, that - as I said, you could just shove...
If it's case 2 or 3 though, we're doing some pretty awesome things here. We're telling Villain that he's going to have to pick his bluff/informational raises a little more carefully because we're now happy to shove on his raises. We're also pricing him out of his draws - even if he has the pretty nice 67hh here for a gutshot straight flush draw, we win this hand 52% of the time. Against a regular flush draw - let's give him that KQs - we're almost a 2-1 favourite. Basically, we're gettig our money in with the best of it. Job done.
But wait, there's more! By shoving, we do occassionally fold out hands which chop or have us beat. Would you call for stacks here with AQ? The way WE'VE played the hand looks very strong indeed. AK could be a call, AJ I think is a fold from Villain. See - we put the decision back on him and we're trying to make this game as tough as possible.
Spewy? I don't think so. To win at poker you need well timed aggression and sense of what is going on around you. We don't have history on him, but nor does he have any on us. Forget what we actually have and TELL him you've got something better. Once he mucks that hand, the game will seem all the more beautiful for it.
Oh, and if he does have us beat, we can just reload.
I'm off to get some flame-resistant clothing, let 'em rip kids!
This is a marginal spot, and by that I mean we're hoping to get 100bbs in as 60/40~50/50 or hoping we're chopping?
just to clarify though. Villain in question had not been knocking me off a few pots. Other villains in general had been up to that point. This may seem petty to mention, but this would change the way I played the hand dramatically.
Also, I am never assuming a player with no info on is re popping AK, AQ, TT-QQ. I see people flatting these so often pre flop at this level that it has become the norm at times.