Could somebody please explain this "move"?

CLIOKID

I cannot find one bit of justification for this. Just horrible, horrible play from what I thought previously was a normal (ish) player.

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
spoiler	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£29.78
CLIOKID	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£53.26
RFvirgin	Sit out
	Your hole cards	9 9
jayh34	Fold
CeeJayPee	Fold
MOREBOY	Fold
spoiler	Call		£0.25	£1.00	£29.53
CLIOKID	Raise		£1.50	£2.50	£51.76
spoiler	Raise		£5.00	£7.50	£24.53
CLIOKID	Raise		£17.50	£25.00	£34.26
spoiler	All-in		£24.53	£49.53	£0.00
CLIOKID	Call		£10.53	£60.06	£23.73
Flop
		J Q 3
Turn
		K
River
		Q
spoiler	Show	K 6
CLIOKID	Show	9 9
spoiler	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and Queens	£58.26		£58.26

richtea

I agree, can't possibly see how they could justify that, especially with the size of your re-re-raise.

Some players just seem to massively overvalue suited hole cards, I've had people call sizeable
raises with rubbish like 8 4 suited.

It's hugely frustrating when they win, but in the long run you want them to play that way against you.

Huntersix

That's the thing about poker you must ignore  no one has to JUSTIFY their play to any one other than themselves !!!  Sometimes you gain sometimes you lose but in the end ABC will probably
deny you massive losses.  What do i know ?   Not a lot  except if you can't influence something then don't get hot under the collar about it.

dowzer

Would be interesting to know what you put your opponent on when he was raising - easy to say after the event but you did only have a mid pair and a lot of hands were beating you (albeit his wasn't!). What were you thinking he had when he reraised you to £5.00 to make you think you were ahead?

CLIOKID

In Response to Re: Could somebody please explain this "move"?:

Would be interesting to know what you put your opponent on when he was raising - easy to say after the event but you did only have a mid pair and a lot of hands were beating you (albeit his wasn't!). What were you thinking he had when he reraised you to £5.00 to make you think you were ahead?
Posted by dowzer

I hadn't raised out of my BB just about the whole game. The guy has seen me play tight as anything therefore I know he ain't limping too strong, I felt he thought I was at it, hence the big re-raise.

Could ALMOST justify if it was for a full stack shove as then I might be able to fold but the fact that I'd made it that big a bet to show that I wasn't folding to his all in which makes it even crazier that he stayed.

mr_mbro

In Response to Re: Could somebody please explain this "move"?:

In Response to Re: Could somebody please explain this "move"? : I hadn't raised out of my BB just about the whole game. The guy has seen me play tight as anything therefore I know he ain't limping too strong, I felt he thought I was at it, hence the big re-raise. Could ALMOST justify if it was for a full stack shove as then I might be able to fold but the fact that I'd made it that big a bet to show that I wasn't folding to his all in which makes it even crazier that he stayed.
Posted by CLIOKID

Hi Clio
You havent really answered the question, of what did you think his range of hands were.
Was he iyo a loose or tight player?
I agree with your assesment but you were pot committed(5to1) after the allin.
Looking at the betting only, i think i would put his range as ,AA KK QQ JJ 1010, AK AQ AJ. Hence im either dominated
by a bigger pair or im racing.
In this situation i would have called the raise and tried a stopper bet on the flop.
It might not have worked but it might have meant not losing so much.
Too many players get involved in a macho contest,(if you see what i mean), when you can get away from a hand and save some chips for a better situation.

col

CLIOKID

In Response to Re: Could somebody please explain this "move"?:

In Response to Re: Could somebody please explain this "move"? : Hi Clio You havent really answered the question, of what did you think his range of hands were. Was he iyo a loose or tight player? I agree with your assesment but you were pot committed(5to1) after the allin. Looking at the betting only, i think i would put his range as ,AA KK QQ JJ 1010, AK AQ AJ. Hence im either dominated by a bigger pair or im racing. In this situation i would have called the raise and tried a stopper bet on the flop. It might not have worked but it might have meant not losing so much. Too many players get involved in a macho contest,(if you see what i mean), when you can get away from a hand and save some chips for a better situation. col
Posted by mr_mbro

I put him on a steal. Simple as that. I did not think he had a genuine hand therefore did not to let him see a cheap flop by calling or a small re-raise.

I consider him a loose player who will try to pull a stunt.

Against most players I would not play my hand anywhere near as aggressively.

mr_mbro

In Response to Re: Could somebody please explain this "move"?:

In Response to Re: Could somebody please explain this "move"? : I put him on a steal. Simple as that. I did not think he had a genuine hand therefore did not to let him see a cheap flop by calling or a small re-raise. I consider him a loose player who will try to pull a stunt. Against most players I would not play my hand anywhere near as aggressively.
Posted by CLIOKID

Hi Clio
This wasn't meant to come across as a criticism.
I agree if you thought he was on a steal and a loose player then the big raise was correct. It put him in push or fold territory and loose players WILL push more than fold in that situation.
When the cards go over your ahead so you read it well and got a beat , unlucky this time. 

col