standard s still the same

chefboy79

how can u tell your mates about this site when u have players that do this and sky rewards them

P4RYS	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£26.16
everton4	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£42.10
	Your hole cards	2 2
chefboy79	Call		£0.50	£1.25	£41.64
jtm	Call		£0.50	£1.75	£42.39
60nine60	Call		£0.50	£2.25	£49.92
P4RYS	Call		£0.25	£2.50	£25.91
everton4	Raise		£0.50	£3.00	£41.60
chefboy79	Call		£0.50	£3.50	£41.14
jtm	Call		£0.50	£4.00	£41.89
60nine60	Fold
P4RYS	Call		£0.50	£4.50	£25.41
Flop
		K 3 2
P4RYS	Check
everton4	Check
chefboy79	Bet		£3.38	£7.88	£37.76
jtm	Fold
P4RYS	All-in		£25.41	£33.29	£0.00
everton4	Fold
chefboy79	Call		£22.03	£55.32	£15.73
P4RYS	Show	3 7
chefboy79	Show	2 2
Turn
		10
River
		J
P4RYS	Win	Flush to the King	£53.52		£53.52

chefboy79

and before any one says raise pre flop i just called because 3 times prior i raised some one goes all in straight away

chefboy79

60nine60	Small blind		£0.25	£0.25	£46.17
P4RYS	Big blind		£0.50	£0.75	£55.95
	Your hole cards	8 K
everton4	Fold
theboweevi	Fold
chefboy79	Call		£0.50	£1.25	£12.25
jtm	Call		£0.50	£1.75	£66.50
60nine60	Call		£0.25	£2.00	£45.92
P4RYS	Check
Flop
		K Q 2
60nine60	Check
P4RYS	Bet		£2.00	£4.00	£53.95
chefboy79	Raise		£8.00	£12.00	£4.25
jtm	Fold
60nine60	Fold
P4RYS	Raise		£12.00	£24.00	£41.95
chefboy79	All-in		£4.25	£28.25	£0.00
P4RYS	Unmatched bet		£1.75	£26.50	£43.70
P4RYS	Show	6 3
chefboy79	Show	8 K
Turn
		K
River
		A
P4RYS	Win	Flush to the King	£25.18		£68.88

HAL_9000

Seriously Chef STOP PLAYING SHORT then come back and moan about it

Keep Smiling

HAL_9000

(Why am I telling you this I take at least £50 a day off shorts (then give it to the sharks to be fair)) If thats not a clue then i give up!!!) Reason Im telling you....Plenty more fish in the sea

Tikay even goes on about keeping near the max buyin on one of the skypoker "interludes "(ask Tikay he remembers interludes), perhaps its just coincidence but a lot of the examples you are short so thats where i would be looking for leaks

Keep Smiling

HAL_9000

DOHHHHHHH

I think the first one is standard, if you are playing 3-7s in a mulltiway pot, which isnt the worst hand in the world (better than ace 6789 for example) - and you hit that flop - you have gotta be happy. 

He's unlucky to run into a set, which takes away his outs to 'trip-up' or even possibly make 2 pair. 

The second hand, you deserve everything you get if your limping in in the cut off with a hand like king 8. 

I wuld say raise with it rather than limp - but as Hal said - you dont have the stack to do that either, so just fold it.

As for your mates - if you tell them the standard of play is shocking, I'm sure they would jump at the chance to come and play here

LOL_RAISE

In Response to Re: standard s still the same:

I think the first one is standard, if you are playing 3-7s in a mulltiway pot, which isnt the worst hand in the world (better than ace 6789 for example) - and you hit that flop - you have gotta be happy.  He's unlucky to run into a set, which takes away his outs to 'trip-up' or even possibly make 2 pair.  The second hand, you deserve everything you get if your limping in in the cut off with a hand like king 8.  I wuld say raise with it rather than limp - but as Hal said - you dont have the stack to do that either, so just fold it. As for your mates - if you tell them the standard of play is shocking, I'm sure they would jump at the chance to come and play here
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

there is no way that 37s is better than A6-A9s in a multiway pot. just no.

DOHHHHHHH

Course it is - u have 2 live cards - and u know where u are at all times.

What flop u gonna be happy with with ace 9? Ace 9 9?

999?

Suited maybe, if played ONLY for the flush possibilities.

Any A high flop gets u in trouble

DOHHHHHHH

In fact, can anyone, who has one of these poker calculator things, type in and find out the percentages of the following hands....

Ace king off suit.

Ace 8 of Hearts

pocket 6's

Ten Jack of Diamonds

3 7 of clubs......

Maybe I am wrong, and that I meant 7 - 3 suited is easier to play in a multi way pot

loonytoons

Your right dohhhhh, when im short stacked in a tourney, id much rather go all in with 6,8 suited than ace 8 off suit, as you say, your more likely to have live cards, and if they have great hole cards, they were calling anyway.

MereNovice

In Response to Re: standard s still the same:

Your right dohhhhh, when im short stacked in a tourney, id much rather go all in with 6,8 suited than ace 8 off suit, as you say, your more likely to have live cards, and if they have great hole cards, they were calling anyway.
Posted by loonytoons

A lot of people say this and it's an interesting issue.

The rationale is that you are likely to get called by a better ace and be dominated and in a bad spot. However, a better ace is only one of a range of hands that is likely to call and, because you have one in your hand, it reduces the chances that your opponent has an ace.
I'd much rather have A8o against any paired hand that might call me and also against hands like KQs etc. Given that people are likely to call with any ace (depending on your stack) then there is a possibility that you might even be dominating them.

If we have A8o v AJo (four different suits) the odds pre-flop are:
AJo 68%
A8o 24%
Split 8%


The odds for 86s v AJo (three different suits) are:
AJo 59%
86s 41%
Split - less than 1%

So, we need to consider whether overall it is a better move to go aipf with 68s because it is rather better in one instance balanced against all the other scenarios where A8o is better.


Personally, I have no great feelings either way: I'll push with just about anything if a spot becomes available.

Pokerstove shows:

                 equity           win            tie                pots won           pots tied   
Hand 0:     55.174%      48.75%     06.43%         2293657860     302495334.00   { 22+, A2s+, KQs, A2o+, KQo }
Hand 1:     44.826%      38.40%     06.43%         1806762864     302495334.00   { A8o }


                  equity          win            tie                pots won           pots tied   
Hand 0:     61.315%      60.90%     00.41%         1134625216       7661884.00   { 22+, A2s+, KQs, A2o+, KQo }
Hand 1:     38.685%      38.27%     00.41%          713037768        7661884.00   { 86s }


So, mathematically, (against the chosen ranges) you are slightly better off with A8o since you are more likely to split the pot.

BlackFish3

with the A8 the ace also acts as a BLOCKERRRRRRR so that the other players are less likely to have a bigger ace

loonytoons

In Response to Re: standard s still the same:

with the A8 the ace also acts as a BLOCKERRRRRRR so that the other players are less likely to have a bigger ace
Posted by BlackFish3

The only way your ace is gonna be bigger, is if you go from mini view to standard view, it then appears at least an inch bigger., (like other things of yours i presume lool)

MereNovice

In Response to Re: standard s still the same:

with the A8 the ace also acts as a BLOCKERRRRRRR so that the other players are less likely to have a bigger ace
Posted by BlackFish3

I believe that I covered this with the phrase "because you have one in your hand, it reduces the chances that your opponent has an ace".

I obviously didn't use your technical jargon but I think that it was pretty clear.