£1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :(

shaun09

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
wembley	Small blind		10.00	10.00	1990.00
BubbleB	Big blind		20.00	30.00	1980.00
	Your hole cards	A A
shaun09	Raise		40.00	70.00	1960.00
young05	Raise		60.00	130.00	1940.00
moose190	Fold
BOSS	Call		60.00	190.00	1940.00
wembley	Call		50.00	240.00	1940.00
BubbleB	Fold
shaun09	Raise		200.00	440.00	1760.00
young05	Call		180.00	620.00	1760.00
BOSS	Call		180.00	800.00	1760.00
wembley	Fold
Flop
		Q 8 10
shaun09	All-in		1760.00	2560.00	0.00
young05	All-in		1760.00	4320.00	0.00
BOSS	All-in		1760.00	6080.00	0.00
shaun09	Show	A A
young05	Show	K 10
BOSS	Show	9 J
Turn
		Q
River
		K
BOSS	Win	Straight to the King	6080.00		6080.00

There is nothing else i could of done is there?
Im not that great at poker as im not making any money just loosing it lol

beaneh

You could have raised more initially preflop and again when it came back round to you you could have pumped it right up. As it was you gave the last person to act 4:1 odds preflop so J9 is a go go go  situation. 

Pump it pre and dont be afraid to have people fold to you when you have big hands, they might also get into the habit of folding when you have nothing :-)

philmenow

unfortunate,but you got to remember that AA is only 1 pair..and as there were 2 callers,theres quite a possibility that they hit the flop to some degree..so phaps a smaller bet to see where you are post-flop..its always hard to put AA down,but they are very beatable,especially early on in a tourney..

shaun09

Oh you mean when i raised 220, i should of raised more?

shaun09

I find it hard to go deep in tounrys, i dont have a big bank roll like most, so i played a freeroll other day to get entry into the 6k tounry, out of 900 people in the freeroll i came 3rd but in the tourny i went out fast. I just dont seem to go deep i am probably playing wrong

philmenow

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

I find it hard to go deed in tounrys, i dont have a big bank roll like most, so i played a freeroll other day to get entry into the 6k tounry, out of 900 people in the freeroll i came 3rd but in the tourny i went out fast. I just dont seem to go deep i am probably playing wrong
Posted by shaun09

i have in the past gone out in much the same sort of way,get a good hand,bet big,get called,then go all-in when i think i must STILL be winning,i now realise that it doesnt matter how gr8 my holdings are,im still gonna get beat,sometimes....just not as often...and not for all my stack..

shaun09

but I find i have a good hand eg ak aq ect i bet big, and then i dont hit and then some one bets and then i fold because i havent hit.

beaneh

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

Oh you mean when i raised 220, i should of raised more?
Posted by shaun09

I would raise to 60 or 80 when it is first on me, then supposing i'd min raised got min 3 bet and a flat cawl i'd be making it about 400.

Everyone is always complaining people call with too much, make use of that pump it up when you have aces!

Tournaments are very high variance keep posting hands/discussing your game and the reasons why you do stuff and you'll get better. :-)

philmenow

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

but I find i have a good hand eg ak aq ect i bet big, and then i dont hit and then some one bets and then i fold because i havent hit.
Posted by shaun09

its not often that you will hit,so you either,bet anyway or reraise their bet..nothing wrong with folding,not evry1s bluffing when they bet...

shaun09

Ok thank you for your comments, i will add some more hands to discuss, and hopefully i will get better lol

beaneh

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

Ok thank you for your comments, i will add some more hands to discuss, and hopefully i will get better lol
Posted by shaun09

Maybe next time you struggle with a hand, post the situation (how deep, what the tables likes, any recent hands that have been shown down, anyone tilting etc?), post positions, stack sizes, but dont post what hand you have. Then just ask people what hands they would require in this situation to do whatever action. Thinking about situations in terms of generalisations will really help. Oftentimes we can get blinkered by the absolute preflop strength of our hand (ie aces and dont want to fold) or the hand strength we make on the flop and cant adapt our play on later streets.

philmenow

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

but I find i have a good hand eg ak aq ect i bet big, and then i dont hit and then some one bets and then i fold because i havent hit.
Posted by shaun09

here you go,my raise is called,the flop is poop,and tbh AJ is pretty poop,and i still risk evrything,and lose..just bad play..a lesson WAS learnt though..

cheggersjn	Small blind		25.00	25.00	1675.00
philmenow	Big blind		50.00	75.00	1285.00
	Your hole cards	A J
peteblue16	Fold
BLADE666	Raise		100.00	175.00	2565.00
colalan	Fold
mc1979	Fold
cheggersjn	Call		75.00	250.00	1600.00
philmenow	Raise		200.00	450.00	1085.00
BLADE666	Call		150.00	600.00	2415.00
cheggersjn	Fold
Flop
		9 2 3
philmenow	All-in		1085.00	1685.00	0.00
BLADE666	Call		1085.00	2770.00	1330.00
philmenow	Show	A J
BLADE666	Show	4 4
Turn
		6
River
		2
BLADE666	Win	Two Pairs, 4s and 2s	2770.00		4100.00

shaun09

Ok I wil do that next time. i think i would of been better off not to get that hand at the start of the tourny.

philmenow

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

Ok I wil do that next time. i think i would of been better off not to get that hand at the start of the tourny.
Posted by shaun09

lol,always get peeps who call with mediocre hands at the start...but id like AA every hand,anytime..

shaun09

So you say you have a big hand preflop. you raise it and they call and you dont hit. what do you do then?

philmenow

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

So you say you have a big hand preflop. you raise it and they call and you dont hit. what do you do then?
Posted by shaun09

continuation bet..or check raise...could even check call and see what happens on turn..(depending on the flop) its all about what you know of the other players etc..also, its easy to win when you get the monster hands,the hard bit is when you dont hit..

shaun09

And i think it is when i dont hit and i make a bet is when im making the wrong move, i dunno where im going wrong but im sure you guys will tell me when you play me... i hope

beaneh

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

So you say you have a big hand preflop. you raise it and they call and you dont hit. what do you do then?
Posted by shaun09

Reconsider what is abig hand early on in a tournament relative to later on in tournaments.

shaun09

so you wouldnt say aa is strong at the start of a tourny compared to later on? no limpers i guess?

philmenow

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

And i think it is when i dont hit and i make a bet is when im making the wrong move, i dunno where im going wrong but im sure you guys will tell me when you play me... i hope
Posted by shaun09

also earlier you said ud come 3rd of 900,you must be doing something right..these big tourneys are easy to lose at..if you raise with say AQ and ur called youv got to think about what theyr calling with,then see the flop,take it from there...somedays ur lukky ,other days they r lukky...

beaneh

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

so you wouldnt say aa is strong at the start of a tourny compared to later on? no limpers i guess?
Posted by shaun09

Well when the blinds are 15/30 and you raise to 90 and someone calls. You have 1970 more chips to get into a pot of 180. One pair aces wont be winning that much when they want to get all the money in.

Hence just smash the raise up pre and build a awesome-tastic big pot or take it down or get it in pre.

Later when the blinds are 150/300 and you have 2100. Any pair is monster-tastically huge and you should raise your right arm, finger pointing in the air as you click all in!!!!

robc

In Response to Re: £1000 bounty hunter. im the first to go out :

So you say you have a big hand preflop. you raise it and they call and you dont hit. what do you do then?
Posted by shaun09

 Arite mate i used to have a similiar problem everytime i had AQ- AKs and missed on the flop i would never no what to do. I tried C-betting,overbetting,check raising,check folding,check calling etc etc sometimes they worked sometimes the didnt. And imo there is no right answer to this, its more about situation and the board than your whole cards alot of the time. if you start trying to put ranges on your oppenents hands this should help. remember everytime you miss with ak it doesn't mean your oppenent has hit. 

 Like i said mate what helped me is looking at the board texture, thinking what the player might be calling your pre flop raise with etc etc trust me it will slowly start to come together, great thing about this game is theres always something new to learn and think about.

shaun09

Yeah i came 3rd out of 938 i think it was, but i only had to be in top 10. but it was only a freeroll.

shaun09

I think the thing is with me. when i have hit but not his with a very good kicker. then i always seem to think they have a better hand. when some one bets againts me if i havent hit massivly i always think they have better hand.

shaun09

im in a bounty hunter now with 127 people. but in was only £2.30 buy in i think.  ill see how i do in that

BlackFish3

good luck

shaun09

Just came 3rd out of 200 odd in a freeroll to get into the 5k sky sport bounty/hunter, the top two get a place
Gutted!!