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Check in the Dark!

FastwayFastway
edited July 2009 in Hold'em Poker Strategy
Hi all


Im new in town- play a lot on another site....err em PKR

Anyway i'd like to know what your thoughts are on maybe having a check in the dark button online- nobody else does it as far as i know online- maybe an option for Skypoker to consider.
Cheers
Mark
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  • silentbobsilentbob
    edited July 2009
    Check in the dark?

    Hope I don't sound stupid but what is it?
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  • NorbitNorbit
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Check in the Dark!:
    Check in the dark? Hope I don't sound stupid but what is it?
    Posted by silentbob
    If im not mistaken checking in the dark, is checking the flop before its dealt, works more with live poker, but with online poker the cards come so quick you might aswel just do your stuff when it gets to you.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Check in the Dark!:
    Check in the dark? Hope I don't sound stupid but what is it?
    Posted by silentbob
    Hi Silent Bob,

    A check in the dark is when you check your action before seeing then next available community card.

    For instance if you and I are in a hand before the flop and the betting is finished. If I am first to act on the next round of betting I may "check in the dark" before we see the flop.

    The main reason for doing this is to essentially gain position on your opponent. By checking in the dark (before seeing the next community cards) you are pushing your opponent to make a decision before you do. It happens on occasion in live play and generally doesnt work unless you hit a strong flop.

    I hope this answers your question.

    Andy
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  • silentbobsilentbob
    edited July 2009

    Thanks Andy & Norbit, that makes sense now although I'm not really sure of why you'd want to do this? Having said that I have mentioned in another thread that I've never played live before except for a few homes games

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  • Tikay10Tikay10
    edited July 2009

    Hi Fastway,

    I don't really think "checking in the dark" migrates well to Online Poker.

    In fact, Marcel Luske apart, I've yet to meet a Live Player who really understands what advantage - or disadvantage - it confers on the Check-In-The-Dark-Er.
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  • unknown_usernameunknown_username
    edited July 2009
    "Check in the Dark"  it's an Old One this !!, 

     It was used alot in 7 card stud POT limit. ... Cash and tourney !!! 

    Back in the early 90's when some of the Europeans were here for the UK (or British)  Festival at Luton,  i remember sitting having coffee with Dave Walsh and  Mike Sexton (yes that one) at the Old Grosvenor Casino. Mike Sexton asked the same question then .. 

    In Britain at 7 card stud it;s the high card to open the betting, in Europe it's the low card to open the betting !!
     
    So basically suppose what happened( or could happen) High card opens and say gets three callers,  an option instead of waiting to see 4th street, was to say "IF it's me im checking in the dark... Note the word "IF' because one of the other players may have paired their board making it their turn to 'check or bet' !! 
    The thing with this 'Check in the Dark' then was,  the opener with the Ace showing could be disguising a monster (AA)A or  (Qc Kc) Ac or maybe rags. Either way it was a way of confusion to the three other players in the pot. Of course it could be used on 5th 6th and 7th steets as well..
    As TK says Marcel Luske knows what he's doing with this play at Hold em..i think you will find he developed it form  7 card stud games in the UK..
    The best use ive seen of 'Check in the Dark was by the late great "Hemish Shah' in the  2000 Late Night Poker against a Frenchman whose name i cant remember ..he was in the B/B  and Hamish in the S/B. I think the hand was Hamish called in the small blinds with rgs 9c 3c ... B/B  raised ..Hamish called !!   flop  c c c (flush for Hamish)  he checks   B/B bets  ... Hamish flat calls  ..
    and   THEN  ... before the dealer deals the turn,  Hamish says   .. "I'm checking in the Dark"   turn comes  .. the Frenchman looks at Hemish and says "You checked" ?  Hamish raised his eyebrows and nodded  'yes' !!   Frenchman moved All-in and the rest was history !!   I think Hamish's chips were in before the Frenchman's ..Hamish Shah was in my opinion the BEST this country has ever seen , so sad he was taken,  way before his time,    great player who i had the pleasure to have sat at the same table !! (not for long though )

    This is how i remember Check in the Dark, there may be other explanation's of it.. but dont underestimate the use of it bye a player knowing 'the time of day' at Stud or  Hold-em

    glk benny
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID
    edited July 2009
    When I was in Vegas with my mate we were playing a $1/2 cash game, anyway he has raised it and some drunk yank nutter called him, my mate checked in the dark, the guy shoved in the dark and my mate called him in the dark before the flop was dealt.

    Obviously my friend had aces and the drunk dude had some raggy ace. Was rather funny!
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  • NoseyBonkNoseyBonk
    edited July 2009
    There was a funny one on the Poker Open V (I think, it was televised recently) between Juha Helppi and Tony G. Tony was getting a bit loose and REALLY winding Juha up (who was to Tony's right). Everyone folded round to them and Juha raised and Tony said something like "lets make it interesting I'll call blind, not looked at my cards, and whatever the flop I'm going all-in" LOL So he calls blind and the flop comes something like Q106 and of course Tony's already announced all-in dark & blind so Juha folds. Tony looks at his cards and finds Q10 lol.
    It was funny to watch but I think Juha was really peeved.
    And then Tony kept singing "If you're happy and you know it clap your hands"

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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID
    edited July 2009
    In Response to Re: Check in the Dark!:
    There was a funny one on the Poker Open V (I think, it was televised recently) between Juha Helppi and Tony G. Tony was getting a bit loose and REALLY winding Juha up (who was to Tony's right). Everyone folded round to them and Juha raised and Tony said something like "lets make it interesting I'll call blind, not looked at my cards, and whatever the flop I'm going all-in" LOL So he calls blind and the flop comes something like Q106 and of course Tony's already announced all-in dark & blind so Juha folds. Tony looks at his cards and finds Q10 lol. It was funny to watch but I think Juha was really peeved. And then Tony kept singing "If you're happy and you know it clap your hands"
    Posted by NoseyBonk
    Tony G is a bell end.
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