what next?

robc

nffc4eva	Small blind		10.00	10.00	4970.00
robc	Big blind		20.00	30.00	4980.00
	Your hole cards	9 9
??????	Call		20.00	50.00	4980.00
murphy06	Fold
Monsterlug	Fold
lev74	Fold
nffc4eva	Fold
robc	Raise		60.00	110.00	4920.00
?????	Call		60.00	170.00	4920.00
Flop
		9 J Q
robc	Bet		100.00	270.00	4820.00
????	Call		100.00	370.00	4820.00
Turn
		Q
robc	Check
????	Bet		20.00	390.00	4800.00
robc	Raise		140.00	530.00	4680.00
????	Call		120.00	650.00	4680.00
River
		J
robc	Bet		650.00	1300.00	4030.00
?????	All-in		4680.00	5980.00	0.00

 This was in the second hand of a tournament, i no the check on the turn isn't great, but what it does tell me from this is he probably has the q after he calls my c-raise which had me jumping up and down. till the river. do you sigh and fold or call and pray? i thought he might have put in a smaller raise with the nuts? any thoughts would be great

silentbob

For me it's a fold. I just can't see how you're ahead here. You're behind to any jack or any queen & as it's only the 2nd hand of the tourney you've still 4k behind. I suppose it's possible he could have something like K10 & that might explain the overbet but I don't feel comfortable putting my tourney on the line this early without the stone cold nuts.

zing

you checked when you should of bet turn and bet when you should of checked river.

CLIOKID

Simply cannot bet the river here.

Check fold river or check call if you have some sort of read that villain may bluff at this board.

DeucesLive

I do think the check is a poor move, a stronger bet might have left you with more information. The bet on the flop was reasonably strong, the bet on the turn needed to be 400/500 to give him something to think about. If he has a J, there's a fair chance he folds- if he has a Q, he reshoves. When he reshoves though, it's a pretty set call I think so you'd be out in that case- I think you've actually got away with it.

There's obviously the possibility he had a 10 only all along and made a MASSIVE bluff at the end- but I think that would be a bad move on his part, since the way you played it highly suggests you having a Q or J- I doubt he could put you on trip 9's. So yea, trying to bluff there wouldn't generally be a good move- I think you have to sigh, realise that 9/10 he has the stronger house and fold, it's the best move most of the time.

robc

hey guys cheers for the response i got the answers i knew i would really, been running horribly recently and making me play bad aswell, he did have the queen which we all knew really lol. and i busted out knowing i was beat as i called, its a mistake i wont be making again, normally it would be a easy fold but was tilting to much and thought surely i cant of been rivered again lol.

  Cheers for the replies guys gl at the tables

 Rob

DeuceAK_47

Bet bigger pre (for value and because your out of position)

Bet bigger on the flop..atleast 3/4 pot (As the board is wet)

Bet turn

Fold river

At least you bet the flop though...see so many players checking lol