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sky poker software is not random

edited August 2009 in Area 51
all these storys about bad beats and lucky players its all down to the poker software sky use its not
random simple as that why hasnt any of the sky reps come on here and tell us 100% truthfully its random
why because its not its programmed to favour certain situations and this should not be allowed and should be regulated, the site might be regulated but is the program that generates the cards?

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  • edited July 2009
    Im starting to feel this way too. When I first joined for weeks I couldnt do a thing wrong. The cards I needed appeared as if by magic. Now its the complete reverse and I cant win a thing. Ive dropped down to the lowest level now and its still the same.

    This software feels like its geared towards new players with the intention of giving them a good run to start them off, then there hooked as they think they are great players.

    I can understand the logic in this because Sky need volume to remain competitive and retaining new players is key to this.

    Ive been shark scoping players who I get obsene bad beats from and they are always newbies who havent been on for long. Stupid stuff like calling two pot size bets to get runner runner straight and flushes etc.

    I cant do a thing right at the moment no matter how tight or loose I play. Once my bankroll hits zero im off somewhere else because I fully understand theres variance expected but I do not get no variance at the moment. If I need a bit if luck it doesnt come and if I just need to avoid a bit of bad luck due to being well ahead it whacks me everytime.

    I fully understand how you will lose the odd 85% / 15% situations but this is beyong a joke at the moment.

  • edited July 2009
    its not fixed    its called running bad    you will run good again soon enough    trust me    been there  done that    all the best
  • edited August 2009
    all british online gambling sites are registered and checked regularly. im playing now, and this one player has been hitting everything for the past hour or so... its not a set up or a con, its just luck. has anyone noticed that its the good players that are lucky? luck in poker is what two cards you get, after that its pure skill. good players appear lucky because thay maximise every situation. there are of course bad beats, some fool goes all in with 7 2 off suit and flops a flush... it happens, its poker, and thats why i love it.
  • edited August 2009
    Great post mate... are you new to sky poker?
  • edited August 2009
    yeah, quite new. been playing poker for a couple of years, started playing as a total noob with red tooth in my local, then a year ago i started playing in another pub weekly MTT, i dont play every week, us students arnt that lucky lol
  • edited August 2009
    I didnt think id seen you before on the forum. Ah im also a student :) good luck at the tables mate.
  • edited August 2009

    NOT RIGGED:)....these poker sites make $$$$ from the rake,they don't care who wins or loses.

  • edited August 2009
    its NOT rigged   are u listening kirstii, daveyzz, annie duke   etc etc etc     the BULLYFISH says it is NOT a FIX     you all have turned me    oh noooooo    TK help me   wwaaahhhhhhhhhhh      LOL
  • edited August 2009

    Sorry to say i'm leavin sky poker after 4 months of misery.
    Yesterday was the final straw. All in on 12 consecutive occassions with high pocket pairs with a caller with a lower pocket pair. The lower pocket pair did not only hit trips every time but it was always the river. On the thirteenth occasion I raised all in after flopping broadway. A very loose caller called with a rag king. The turn and the river completed his full house. There's no real skill involved in this game here. Going in with the best cards rarely pays and aren't aces supposd to be a massive favourite against any other cards? The only way to play em here is all in and hope no one calls as they rarely hold up.                                                                                                                            
    I'm not bitter about it but feel if i am going to spend my money, i am best doing it elsewhere. I sincerely wish everyone i have met here the best and hope sky finally admit to either errors in their programming or deliberate card placement to make the games 'more exiting'.

  • edited August 2009

    That's nothing compared to the XBOX fight night 4 software- that is REALLY fixed!!

    On a serious note , sorry to hear your having a bad spell mate but it happens on poker room, pkr, poker stars and party poker, littlewoods, william hill. i've tried em all. on a bad swing myself at the mo so I can empathise.,

    Maybe try tightening right up, AA is only fav pre flop.  Try the deepies!

  • edited August 2009

    In Response to Re: sky poker software is not random:

    its NOT rigged   are u listening kirstii, daveyzz, annie duke   etc etc etc     the BULLYFISH says it is NOT a FIX     you all have turned me    oh noooooo    TK help me   wwaaahhhhhhhhhhh      LOL
    Posted by bullyfish
    omg bully,whats going on???
    i almost want to say it is rigged just to disagree with you!!


    on the point of sharkscoping,the guy says its usually a newbie that sucks out on him,and surely thats the point they make the wrong call and get lucky,a good player folds so you dont see a massive suckout...........

    keep the faith m8..daveyzz

  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: sky poker software is not random:
    That's nothing compared to the XBOX fight night 4 software- that is REALLY fixed!! On a serious note , sorry to hear your having a bad spell mate but it happens on poker room, pkr, poker stars and party poker, littlewoods, william hill. i've tried em all. on a bad swing myself at the mo so I can empathise., Maybe try tightening right up, AA is only fav pre flop.  Try the deepies!
    Posted by SpongeDoug
    Thanks for the words of encouragement SpongeDoug.

    After 5 days thought and reflection, I have shaken off the deep feelings of resentment I had and have come to the following conclusions.

    I actually like bad beats!!  Sounds silly, yes, but ultimately it means you pushed your chips over the line whilst you were a massive favourite. For every 15 times i get runner runner full house beating my straight, it must mean 85 times i got his chips. Remember you do not know how many times people muck on the river because they have missed their 3 outers.

    I am taking a further week or two away from the tables. Like most of us, bad beats put us on tilt. This is more dangerous than any other style of play. Not only are you playing against 5 others but also now playing against
    yourself.

    I have given bad beats as well as receiving them. Can anyone genuinly say they have never pushed with hands like jacks or queens to be found running into aces and outdrawing them? Not many i would wager. Also has anyone let in the big blind too cheaply with their monster hand only to be outdrawn?  Delicate balance this risk/reward thing.

    Not wishing to sound too self congratulatory, I started 4 months ago with a very small bankroll, played micro games and slowly built it up and worked up through the levels. I have never strayed from my tight bankroll management
    and only every played within 5% of it. I will however now drop this ratio down to 2.5%.

    And before anyone asks, yes this post probably belongs in the 'how do you overcome a downswing' thread
    but as my original post is here, i needed to reply here. Although I may cut and copy most of it over there anyway.

    See you all in a few weeks!

  • edited August 2009

    Good point from kayling. New members are always looked after, if u were new 2 poker, joined a site and got caned and lost all your money in a couple of weeks you would give up. Thats no good to any site.

    In the many years i've been playing poker, when i've joined a new site for the first 4-6 weeks i'm on fire and it is easy money.

    After that its like your the worst/unluckiest player on the planet, same thing has happened here.

    So i've cashed out for a modest profit, will use up my points in the freerolls and look for another site to join where i will be a world beater again for the first month.

    This isn't the worst site i've belonged too but could do with other types of poker i.e stud, draw or omaha.

    Be lucky.

  • edited August 2009
    In Response to Re: sky poker software is not random:
    In Response to Re: sky poker software is not random : Thanks for the words of encouragement SpongeDoug. After 5 days thought and reflection, I have shaken off the deep feelings of resentment I had and have come to the following conclusions. I actually like bad beats!!  Sounds silly, yes, but ultimately it means you pushed your chips over the line whilst you were a massive favourite. For every 15 times i get runner runner full house beating my straight, it must mean 85 times i got his chips. Remember you do not know how many times people muck on the river because they have missed their 3 outers. I am taking a further week or two away from the tables. Like most of us, bad beats put us on tilt. This is more dangerous than any other style of play. Not only are you playing against 5 others but also now playing against yourself. I have given bad beats as well as receiving them. Can anyone genuinly say they have never pushed with hands like jacks or queens to be found running into aces and outdrawing them? Not many i would wager. Also has anyone let in the big blind too cheaply with their monster hand only to be outdrawn?  Delicate balance this risk/reward thing. Not wishing to sound too self congratulatory, I started 4 months ago with a very small bankroll, played micro games and slowly built it up and worked up through the levels. I have never strayed from my tight bankroll management and only every played within 5% of it. I will however now drop this ratio down to 2.5%. And before anyone asks, yes this post probably belongs in the 'how do you overcome a downswing' thread but as my original post is here, i needed to reply here. Although I may cut and copy most of it over there anyway. See you all in a few weeks!
    Posted by Chhas
    Top Post there Mr Chhas.

    You've clearly reflected on what happened, & figured it out - & figured it spot-on, too.

    The part I have enboldened is interesting, & so, so true.

    A regular on here was having a bad downswing (so am I right now, but that's how the qame goes), & he said, paraphrased, "that's it, I'm sick of these bad beats, I'm outa here. Then he added the telling bit.....

    "I'll just play one more Velocity (uber-fast-paced) tourney - let's see what bad-beat hits me in this."

    And of course he was on an hour later - "YES - I got bad-beated".

    Once you think that way, you are dead in the water.

    The Pros don't like to admit it, but there is a LOT of luck in Tournamwent Poker - probably the luck/skill ratio is 70/30. Which is just as well for most of us.

    Luck is what helps to beat us, & luck is what helps us win.

    What does NOT affect these things is the software. Nobody needs to mess with the game as it is - it's both the cruellest, & the most wonderful, game there is. And it's that luck that is the crucial element of the game.

    Look forward to your return, in a few weeks.
  • edited August 2009

    Thanks Tikay,

    Still about every day, watching/chatting to friends. resisted the urge to get back to the tables before i feel ready.

  • edited August 2009
    grrrr Tikay uve annoyed me. Poker is NOT 70% luck. If it was only 30% skill then the top pros must all have a skill factor very close to the maximum 30. Such small variations in their skill would therefore mean that there would be very little to choose between pros. However certain pros do come out on top of others consistently. Poker is a very skillful game, i would say 80 20 split in favour of skill.
  • edited August 2009
    Thank You TK for finally admitting it- ie software not an RNG then- I have over ten years experience as a live player and have played on all the major sites for over five. A friend asked me to try this for a week with his money as he had grave concerns. I am sorry Tony but the regularity of paired flops and massivelly over coordinated flops leaves me in NO DOUBT whatsoever that this site has serious serious flaws to put it diplomatically.
    I have never I repeat never questioned the integrity of any other site but believe me the players l discussed it with earlier this evening who play regularly both online and live told me exactly what l was thinking as soon as l uttered the words sky poker.
    One more thing Tony, and l have always respected your views on poker but what exactly do people expect you to come on here and say other than what you have said.
    Your honest opinion or the company line?
  • edited August 2009
    Mildot.....There's a pub near us that has these red tooth poker nights.... I could do with getting in some live experience without getting killed in a casino. How do you rate them?
  • edited August 2009
    Chhas. It can be disheartening when you feel you're getting the rough end of it.

    All the sites I've played on are the same. My bank rolls have gone up and down more times than the challenger shuttle!

    One day there will be a light at the end of the tunnel.....

    In fact I can see it now......


    In fact it's getting bigger and brighter.....

    Oh Sh**! It's the 17.45 Nottingham to Liverpool train!!!
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