JJ Pre-Flop vs Manic - What Do You Do?

YoungUn

Couple of hands to give you an idea as to the villain's play. I had notes on the villain as being a manic, particularly agressive pre-flop, but they were taken quite a long time ago. He turned up to the table as chip leader and within a round he played 2 of these hands:

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Stiggy_606	Small blind		10.00	10.00	2040.00
Villain	Big blind		20.00	30.00	6200.00
	Your hole cards	5 3
jon197315	Call		20.00	50.00	1820.00
YoungUn	Call		20.00	70.00	1880.00
alfie501	Call		20.00	90.00	2210.00
GIGG44	Call		20.00	110.00	1960.00
Stiggy_606	Call		10.00	120.00	2030.00
Villain	Raise		440.00	560.00	5760.00
jon197315	Fold
YoungUn	Fold
alfie501	Fold
GIGG44	Fold
Stiggy_606	Call		440.00	1000.00	1590.00
Flop
		K 6 6
Stiggy_606	Check
Villain	Bet		1800.00	2800.00	3960.00
Stiggy_606	All-in		1590.00	4390.00	0.00
Villain	Unmatched bet		210.00	4180.00	4170.00
Stiggy_606	Show	9 A
Villain	Show	8 3
Turn
		K
River
		A
Stiggy_606	Win	Two Pairs, Aces and Kings	4180.00		4180.00

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
alfie501	Small blind		15.00	15.00	2205.00
GIGG44	Big blind		30.00	45.00	1940.00
	Your hole cards	10 7
Stiggy_606	Fold
Villain	Raise		150.00	195.00	4050.00
jon197315	All-in		1775.00	1970.00	0.00
YoungUn	Fold
alfie501	Call		1760.00	3730.00	445.00
GIGG44	Fold
Villain	Call		1625.00	5355.00	2425.00
Flop
		4 K 9
alfie501	Check
Villain	All-in		2425.00	7780.00	0.00
alfie501	All-in		445.00	8225.00	0.00
Villain	Unmatched bet		1980.00	6245.00	1980.00
alfie501	Show	A 10
Villain	Show	Q K
jon197315	Show	A 6
Turn
		9
River
		K
Villain	Win	Full House, Kings and 9s	6245.00		8225.00

Those are the only hands he really played in the round or 2 leading up to the hand in question. I won't post my actions/result yet, let some answers come in first:

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
Villain	Small blind		15.00	15.00	8090.00
YoungUn	Big blind		30.00	45.00	2060.00
	Your hole cards	J J
nimmy	Fold
GIGG44	Call		30.00	75.00	1370.00
Stiggy_606	Call		30.00	105.00	4655.00
Villain	Raise		135.00	240.00	7955.00
YoungUn	?????

Buster69

i raise all in here mate he may call you with KQ AK AQ but if he does its down to the poker gods im not putting him on AA KK OR QQ here because he is far too aggressive its either all in or fold certainly no calling lol

DOHHHHHHH

I just make a normal raise as I would with jacks pre flop. Hope he goes mental and shoves the lot in, then press call asap.

Dudeskin8

You have 68 BB's and also position, I would raise to 290 then see what happens. If he goes all in you have to call off almost 60 BB's hoping his at it, I would fold then, but if he just calls the raise you have position and go from there.

beaneh

Make it like 4-500 and stack off happily against him :-)

YoungUn

For those that make a standard re-raise, what do you do if he calls pre and then donk bet shoves into you on a rainbow board with one over to our Jacks? Do you puke-fold or call considering he can clearly show up with nothing every now and then?

ajs4385

What beaneh said.

I call a donk bet shove on most boards.

tregesea31

  Have a look at the flop and assess from there. It is not worth your tournament on the jacks but if the flop comes down nice for you and he bets shove it in. If its not a good flop fold and you hopefully haven t wasted to many chips. This guy will not last the distance so wait until you have him covered and check call him all the way. You are not going to ever raise this guy off. Its early in the proceedings and you only pick up alot of chips near the end of things, but you ve got to make it there. 

beaneh

In Response to Re: JJ Pre-Flop vs Manic - What Do You Do?:

What beaneh said. I call a donk bet shove on all boards.
Posted by ajs4385

I've fixed AJ's post.

YoungUn

Thanks for the comments all.

I just shipped it on him, he insta-called with KQ and I lost the race.

I shipped it on him for 2 reasons really. Firstly, I was always calling if he 5-bet shoved me PF, but I didn't know how I would proceed if he just called and I saw an over to the JJ (regardless of how he acted). I did know, though, that he was going to be calling me all-in super wide there. I saw him call a similarly sized all-in with KQ, so he'd also do it with KJ, KT, QJ, QT and almost any Ax hand, so I was confident that I could get in much better than a coin flip.  

beaneh

Played it perfectly then. UL