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Was this played badly/can it be folded?

edited May 2010 in The Poker Clinic
So, villain is a tight, strong player from observations, but also a dominant chip leader (over double my stack, and I have 20BBs at this stage). Pretty sure the pre raise is decent, wanted the action, and got the flop I wanted. Again from observations, villain will regularly push min raises on the button, so I wasn't particularly concerned about his cards- I was 90% sure I was ahead pre flop.

The flop and turn are the main concerns I have- was the flop raise enough, or should I have just shoved to try and take it down? After it's called, and this is the big one, should I be concerned about the flush? My thought process was that he's a good player, and if I check here- he's strongly likely to represent the flush and put me allin, regardless of if he has it or not. As I'm first to act, and I don't have enough chips to do anything but shove, I shove.

Question is, should I be check folding now the flush is there? Of course, I'm drawing to the nut flush which influenced my decision... tourney was a BH too, and drawing to the end. If I win that hand, I'm chipleader and would be confident of finishing top 3.

Also note, I'm not fussed about losing the hand as much as I'm not sure if I should have gotten away from it. It's not a bad beat, since I think I may have priced his draw in on the flop.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
saracrisp Small blind   150.00 150.00 2846.24
DeucesLive Big blind   300.00 450.00 6060.00
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • Q
     
fozza Fold        
Villain Raise   600.00 1050.00 11793.12
saracrisp Call   450.00 1500.00 2396.24
DeucesLive Raise   1200.00 2700.00 4860.00
Villain Call   900.00 3600.00 10893.12
saracrisp Call   900.00 4500.00 1496.24
Flop
   
  • 6
  • Q
  • 4
     
saracrisp Check        
DeucesLive Bet   1500.00 6000.00 3360.00
Villain Call   1500.00 7500.00 9393.12
saracrisp Fold        
Turn
   
  • J
     
DeucesLive All-in   3360.00 10860.00 0.00
Villain Call   3360.00 14220.00 6033.12
DeucesLive Show
  • A
  • Q
     
Villain Show
  • K
  • 9
     
River
   
  • 2
     
Villain Win Flush to the King 14220.00   20253.12

Comments

  • edited May 2010
    All in preflop.

    Bet bigger on the flop, i'm never folding TPT and BDNFD with 20 bets esp not in a 3 bet pot. Sue me!
  • edited May 2010
    Shove on the flop IMO. Pot is 4500, stack is 4860. Saves the difficult spot you get yourself in on the turn.

    As played, you must shove the turn. You've committed just under half your stack and are only left with 10BB's if you fold. The only hand you fear is a flush (maybe QJ) so check-folding the turn is being way too paranoid.
  • edited May 2010
    I'm with beaneh here, jam the flop.

    Post flop there is no way he's folding, no matter what you do.
  • edited May 2010
    All in pre flop, easy game.
  • edited May 2010
    If I remember, as it was a BH I was trying to price Sarah in, since she'd called the small raise (which, like I said, the villain did on the button with a wide range) and I figured the allin would probably push her out. On the flop, maybe I should have jammed it there, but again- I was trying to make it look like a steal and tempt her to shove on me- didn't work, but that was the thought process behind it.

    If it was a standard tournament, where the only cash is for placing, I would be happy to gun this down pre... but I wanted the action from the shortie. Obviously it backfired here, but would you find yourself playing differently in bounty hunter format when you get premium hands, and then connect on flop too? Still trying to figure out just how differently I should be playing in these tourneys as opposed to normal ones :)
  • edited May 2010
    Probably all in pre, but definitely on flop, your bet is just pointless and gives him great odds to draw.
  • edited May 2010
    I jam all the time, every time.
  • edited May 2010
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