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HI/LO OMAHA CASH GAMES / THIS RAKE IS KILLING ME!
AS IT SAYS ON THE TIN .
KILLING ME THIS RAKE .
I LOVE THE CASH GAME ,
BUT THE RAKE ON THESE CASH GAMES MUST BE MAKING SKYPOKER AT LEAST
4 TIMES MORE RAKE THEN A NORMAL HOLDEM CASH GAME .
SO MUCH ACTION WITH THE HIGH HAND AND 8 BELOW [ LOW HAND ] ALSO WINNING .
SO IS IT JUST ME THAT FEELS THIS WAY ?
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This has been the only criticism that I have with the game - tbh I don't fully understand the game - but I do understand the rake will kill you - surely at the higher level this is even worse - I was frustrated and it was only 2p/4p lol
Great thread once again Den!!
I then went and played 10p/20p only sat down with £8 as its out of my bankroll (sorry know how much you guys hate that) played for around an hour and really didnt notice the rake so much for some reason, maybe it was just because i had a winning session stood with about £26, it just really stood out to me more on the lower stakes
any chance?
I agree IRISHROVER, played for the first time 2/4p yesterday and was very surprised how much rake was taken.
I enjoyed the game but wont be playing too much of it while the rake remains like this.
It's a crucial aspect of PLO8 where people lose money by playing with the nut low and getting less than 50% of the pot in a multi-way showdown.
The nut high often gets 50% of the pot while 2 or more players split the low pot.
It is good tactics to play the high hand aggressively in situations where you believe this to be the case.
Any chance of "proper" emoticons being implemented for old duffers like me? ;-)))
Must be a relapse of flea trap fever.
i had a look into a few sites a few weeks ago and seen some have a very high rake cap of 3.5 euro whist others have a cap of $0.50.
im new to high low so i play far too many hands but so is everyone on here, maybe lower the rake to a 10p max for a few months to get people playing it, also do the same with omaha as it is yet to take off, i played a bit of HU omaha around christmas and you couldnt beat the rake playing 25p/50p, so have not played any HU plo since.
anyone know what happend to the idea on a £4 allin omaha table with smaller rake?
The Rake in Hi-lo on Sky Poker is identical to the rake in any other game - not more, not less. The same.
More people pay it, more often, because there are a lot "splits". In a "split", both pots contribute HALF of the total rake.
The TOTAL rake is paid is identical to all other poker variants.
The idea of Omaha Hi-Lo is to engineer, & only play for, "scoops". If we set out to play every hand, & hope for regular splits, we WILL lose money at the game, because we are playing it wrong.
In fact, in many, if not most, "splits", we should still make a profit overall, after rake, because in the early stages of the hand, there were 3, 4, 5 or even 6 players involved, & we are also spliitting their contribution to the pot.
And the real skill in Hi-Lo is to get a lock on one end - say the High hand - AND keep as many other players in the hand all chasing the Low hand. If we get to the end 4 way, 3 are sharing the lo, & we have the high, we are in easy street.
I alluded to this matter in a Blog I penned yesterday, which is HERE
yep they're coming. hopefully late summer along with a few other community developments.
You wouldn't believe the technical headaches that 'emotions' caused during the build of the community (thus their omission).
cheers
It's a beautiful game, & the skill differential between those who understand how it works, & those who do not, is huge.
As you say, "starting hand range" is VERY important, as we are trying to scoopio.
I do find it rather sad, truth to tell, to see every player call to see every hand, because they are simply burning money - & then they blame Sky Poker for the rake incurred in split pots!
The world has gone mad, I tell ya.
If you have any questions on Hi-Lo, Moo, just ask, please, either via the "Ask tikay" thread, or in the Poker Clinic. There are plenty of good Omaha & Hi-Lo players on here, & all of them are good guys, keen to help others share their enjoyment of the beautiful game.
ok ty tk i will try out your advice later !
As you know I try to have "Hi-Lo Tourney" evenings, spanning all buy-ins, from £1.10 to £11, & we get quite good numbers in these - up to 30+ in some of them. The other evening I promoted & play in six of them, & we got over 100 runners in total.
The evening was huge fun, & despite the fact that in Omaha we see a lot of brutal beats - it's the nature of the game, there was no "I'm so unlucky" whingeing at all.
Hi-Lo is very different, & if played properly, we should NEVER go to Showdown without at least the nuts at ONE END. So we are always going to get something.
I played a £5 Hi-Lo Heads-Up Tourney yesterday (which I lost) just to try it out, & with 2,000 starting chips, we were at 300-600 before it finished - simply because of the nature of the game means we are splitting a lot of pots. Hard to imagine more bangs per buck for a fiver, to be honest.
I'll be doing more Hi-Lo Tourney evenings as & when time permits, & I hope others join in the fun. They don't know what they are missing!
I did play in 1 of the tourneys the other night (£1.10) and agree with Dylan it was a cheap way to help learn the game. It was interesting to watch the better players and what starting hands they played, did help me find the fold button x