What are odds all about

MadHorse

Hey how are you meant to calculate this in 30 secs, I need help.

I got AK, flop 829

So i got 3 more A out there and 3 more K out there = 6 outs, I times this by 4 = 24% = 3-1

I got a pot of 8441, i call for 2619 so my pot is 11060

then i am supposed to divide 11060 by 2619 = 4.42 = 3-1

so am i getting the odds to call? no.

how am i meant to do this in 30 sec without a calculater are you mad?

BlackFish3

Memorise that 2 overs = 25% shot with 2 cards to come.

Pot of about 8500. Call for about 2500. Add them together to get 11000. 2500/10000 is 0.25 or 25% so it's basically a call yes.

So you can work this sort of thing out quickly if you round up the numbers.

MereNovice

In Response to What are odds all about:

Hey how are you meant to calculate this in 30 secs, I need help. I got AK, flop 829 So i got 3 more A out there and 3 more K out there = 6 outs, I times this by 4 = 24% = 3-1 I got a pot of 8441, i call for 2619 so my pot is 11060 then i am supposed to divide 11060 by 2619 = 4.42 = 3-1 so am i getting the odds to call? no. how am i meant to do this in 30 sec without a calculater are you mad?
Posted by MadHorse

Don't count the chips that you are putting into the pot when calculating the pot odds.
Just divide the amount in there already by how much you need to call, so 8441/2619 is a liitle more than 3/1 - I'd just work out that 3 * 26 = 78 so you are getting good odds if you put your opponent on nothing better than a pair.

Also, only use the 4% rule if your opponent is all-in on the flop, otherwise he can bet again on the turn and get you off your hand. If your opponent is all-in on the flop then why aren't all the chips in pre-flop? That would save a lot of calculating.  :-)